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19 Feb 2017 20:39:40
Is this club completely bonkers? Rumours of moving training facilities to London. Sunderland are the Co Durham team because that River Wear starts in Upper Weardale and meanders its way through Co Durham to Sunderland.

We need to go the same route as Athletico Bilbao in Spain who were founded by Sunderland Supporters.

Instead of wasting money on second rate foreigners just give local lads a chance to play for Sunderland who knows what it means to put on the red and white stripes.

When Sunderland have been successful like 1973 70% of the squad was North East Born.

The great players who have come from the North East Raich Carter, Colin Todd,Bobby Charlton, Bryan Robson we do not need foreigners who think it is too cold.

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05 Feb 2017 00:38:10
I can see you getting out of the relegation places.

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04 Feb 2017 21:43:02
What a win!! Up yours fat Sam and PVA haha makes it so sweat. Nice to see we have swapped pva with an actual defender who can get forward and defend.

Onwards and upwards! FTM

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05 Feb 2017 02:21:23
Oveido made PVA look like a sunday morning player in comparison! great display! more please against Southampton!

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30 Jan 2017 22:48:06
I see 2 LA LIGA teams are after Whabi Khasri . i'm not sure about this one as I feel he should be given a run in the team but Moyes won't pick him!

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31 Jan 2017 00:28:20
Answered the problem there. If Moyes won't pick him then it is sensible to cash in on him. My issue is with khazri is the fact he came back over weight. New manager does not get a good first impression of the player so does not use him. Moyes can only go off what he sees so khazri shot himself in the foot at sunderland. Great potential but not a luxury we can currently afford at our club

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31 Jan 2017 17:21:22
ALL depends what money we get for him!? at £8 million yes! he does have an attitude problem but so does our lass lol!

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24 Jan 2017 23:29:24
Oviedo and Gibson now! If Oviedo didn't have such a bad injury record I would be excited by it. Gibson coming in at least adds options in midfield. That's if the rumours are true.

Also heard ARCA may be getting a first team coaching role at Sunderland. Any thoughts?

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26 Jan 2017 17:51:58
FTM, Arca was loved by our fans, and would do a better job than Bracewell. I would settle for him coming in as left back!

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26 Jan 2017 18:18:31
Would be awesome if he was able to come back and play. While we are at it let's get Quinn and Phillips back as well haha

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27 Jan 2017 10:17:02
Agree, happier times then, while we are at it ask Peter Reid to come and sort us out.

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27 Jan 2017 20:54:52
Haha yes to all of the above

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24 Jan 2017 21:07:15
Just watched Joe devines video regarding our finances. It is worth a watch on YouTube for anyone who has the time. Eye opening and quite worrying to say the least

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24 Jan 2017 13:38:48
Welcome Joelean
Osman next
Followed by Keane
All frees

PVA, borini and khazri going?

Who are the wild cards that will make any difference?

I keep saying keep the faith, but I am starting to worry as the other teams around us look to be playing football!

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24 Jan 2017 16:28:07
PVA can't defend! Good riddance especially for that much money. Borini has been garbage since he has come back and if he isn't gunna use khazri may aswell cash in on him. Lescott will hopefully just be cover but can't be any worse than what we have. We are going down just accept it and we can rebuild in the summer with hopefully a new owner.

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24 Jan 2017 21:27:28
I feel we should be running out to the dads army theme tune. Would be more in keeping with our team of Everton has been. Club a joke had enough no more season tickets for me

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26 Jan 2017 12:05:57
Just heard robbie Keane has turned us down he got a better offer from Penshaw over 35s!

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22 Jan 2017 09:39:30
Heard today the club have Patrick viera lined up - can anyone confirm this is as manager or another moyes special as a player!
If it is as a player - it could work as he might be better at pinging balls up to our man mountain of a centre forward (Defoe)

Also rumoured we a looking at Robbie Keene - can't believe this is true - there must be some shorter players with less presence, pace and power we can add - more like Pinear!

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22 Jan 2017 10:11:49
It is as manager mate. Do you have something against Defoe or am I just misreading your post. I also agree with the way we play with him on the pitch is pathetic but surely that is not his fault?

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22 Jan 2017 12:22:36
AGREE 100% - just think if we continue with him leading the line on his own all that will happen is he will score 20 goals and we will go down - it is unfair to expect him to out muscle central defenders yet our only game plan is hitting balls up to him - so we either need to change our game plan or change him. that's why I believe anichebi in front of or along side defoe would be my preferred option - and a swap deal for lense with emineke could make sense as cover for anichebi- even jagyellka and lescott could work if dillibodgy moves to left back and van arnholt moves to left midfield- that way we get to keep defoe and give him the support he needs and add some presence to our defence. but if these options aren't taken then I would rather sell defoe and add some power and presence up front than sell van arnholt - replace him pretty much like for like, and then continue doing what we are doing now.
moyes should have taken mvilla rather than the 2 Manchester United lads at the start of the season and we might have been able to hold our own rather than struggling everytime we come up against a bit of size.
So I think our problems are deep rooted and defoe is the solution - we either get him support or we sell him and change - but we can't just expect him to lead the line!

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23 Jan 2017 00:28:46
Viera? well I think Micky Mouse or Donald Duck would be better than Moyes! lol I think the buck stops with the manager! Moyes can't motivate the players and remember Moyes bought in the players who are failing Bring in the kids as there's nothing to lose now! personally I think moyes will walk away!

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23 jan 2017 09:53:20
perhapse if moyes signed peter reed, roy keene, gus poyet, paulo dichanio and steve bruce - we would have a chance of surviving - and they can't be that much older than robby keene!

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24 Jan 2017 23:27:27
Lead the line? Anichebe out why not try the kid Maja he s big strong and would be a good foil for Defoe? we need to blood the kids! nothing ventured nothing gained we need to try some positive things but is Moyes capable of positive thinking?

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21 Jan 2017 00:09:39
Hey lads been a while. Just been reading some of the recent posts. While I share some of the feelings people have about moyes, who do you suggest we get in? Who will come at this stage. Who is available?

As for people suggesting we sell Defoe as 'he makes everyone else ineffective' are you sure? Why not play to our strengths we are blessed to have him and most clubs down the bottom envy us having him. How about selling borini (who is garbage by the way) and by a winger who can feed Defoe. I love anichebe but to say he should start central ahead of Defoe is ludacrous considering anichebe goal record. How about pairing them upfront together.

What I am getting at is that the personal are there to make this the competitive, Moyes just needs to open is eyes to the truth. 4-4-2. Injuries haven't helped either. Love to hear your opinions guys.

FTM!

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21 Jan 2017 13:17:23
I think the main problem is, with him in the team we play in an utterly stupid way. We hit 60yard high balls at him which he rarely if ever gets to as he's a foot shorter than everyone around him. If he wasn't there? We'd have to do something else I guess, also if we get relegated he goes for a free which is also bad for us.

It's a really tough position, when he plays with a tall guy he's got much more space and is a lot more effective, without that tall guy to help hold up the ball most of our attacks fail. We just don't seem to have another idea of how to attack.

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21 Jan 2017 18:54:42
Moyes is TOO negative agree 4-4-2 is the answer as i'd rather go down fighting than with a whimper and can someone tell me how playing 3 at the back is designed to shore up our leaky defence? can't and never will understand Moyes tactics and the players seem confused too! simple fact is they don't want to play for this negative manager!

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21 Jan 2017 20:58:25
i didn't know George Honeyman was in the last 6 months of his contract and many other clubs here and in Europe are looking to sign him up cheap! this is typical of how this club is so badly run the likes of Honeyman should have been given a long term contract a long time ago . it saddens me to see from board room to management and training how this club has went downhill so fast and senior players who can't be bothered to wear the shirt with pride are giving preference to upcoming talent like George!

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22 Jan 2017 01:04:25
wyndrusher you are right we play in a daft way with Defoe but that doesn't mean he is surplus like many suggest. Moyes needs to wake up and play properly and keep the ball on the floor or change formation and partner him with big Vic!

Stokoe I didn't realise that about honeyman if (when) we go down I believe him and gooch could play a massive part in that season so it is imperative we keep a hold. A wouldn't mind a look at viera if Moyes leaves in the summer like.

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22 Jan 2017 01:33:53
I would bring in Gary rowett if he is sacked which I don't know will happen because was can't afford to sack him. The team needs to take responsibility it's one of the worst teams I've seen in the prem. The owner has been to naive and gave money to absolute idiots. I've accepted that we are down as there are no teams worse then us. I don't know where out next win is coming from. I would bet rowett and build for the championship. He knows the league very well and did well with no money and burton and Birmingham. He'll have a little bit to spend and we'll be an attractive option for top championship players. Hopefully we won't go down but if we down hopefully we voice straight back. Moyes is finished.

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22 Jan 2017 03:45:15
I'm not in any way saying he's surplus, I'm saying with him in the team we always play the same way, which is stupid long balls which he rarely if ever gets. In that case what use is he? He can't score, he can't create, he can't DO anything. At least when he's playing with someone who can bring the ball down and get it to his feet he can really help the team. That's the issue though, defoe is a to foot player, which we'll never play without someone up with him. Which we rarely if ever do as we've no decent midfield to get the ball too him, usually because our defence can't get it to the midfield, thus the eternal longball tactic.

If we're going to partner him up every game sure he's probably one of the best forwards in the league, without though he becomes practically useless which is completely unfair to him. Also since we're always playing route one, it's insanely easy to defend against, we need options, variety and logic, none of which are available when they play the hoof it to defoe tactic 24/ 7.

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22 Jan 2017 10:10:03
Have to agree with you wyndrusher but again that is the coaching team who need to wake up and change the way we play.

SAFC77 I am also expecting tovgo down this summer and I do like the possibility of rowett or even give Stockdale a bigger role? The players have nothing but praise for Stockdale so may be a man they fight fight for on the pitch.

My fear is that we will again have no money to attract the big players we need in the championship and we will find it hard to get rid of the big wages. (Oshea, borini, larsson) as a can't see anyone wanting them.

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22 Jan 2017 12:48:49
The backroom staff must be dropping the ball entirely, both coaching and physio. Do you remember a few seasons ago when almost every injury was the same knee one? That was training ground injuries every single time. Though to be honest even with their terrible coaching, the players are more at fault. Take O'shae, how many years has he played? The last few games he's looked like he's just learning to defend for the first time, he doesn't communicate, doesn't help setup the defence and it's costing us badly. The others are pretty much as bad it's just unreal and they need to be gotten rid of, we need a total clear out of most of the first team and the coaching staff. If/ when we go down an entirely fresh start so that we can have a team again. There's no ethos to the team, no unity, no understanding and certainly no pride. When we go down we'll lose defoe straight off the bat and I wonder who else has relegation release options in their contracts.

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22 Jan 2017 16:23:35
Defoe, Pickford, PVA, Borini, kirchoff, maybe catts will all definitely be away. Which is a shame but maybe you are right maybe we need a whole sale clear out.

I would like to keep gooch, watmore (should be up top when he returns) and McNair as he will develop in the championship. Gives us a nice foundation to move forward

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10 Jan 2017 15:37:58
Being a Sunderland suporter during the transfer window is soul destroying - the board say we can't afford to bring in new players but the reallity is we can't afford not to - we need new blood of premier league quallity and we need it fast - yet all we get are excuses - being relligated will cost far more than a couple of players! - if he hasn't got the money Ellis Short needs to find an investor who has.

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10 Jan 2017 16:03:12
It's not the transfer fees that's the issue, it's the wage cap. We can't pay more wages than we are, we can't even bring our loan players back as we'd be in trouble with the FFP rules. Unless we sell someone or short manages to jiggle the books a bit we're really screwed due to year after year of patching a team that has made a mess of it entirely. We can't risk point deductions, or transfer embargos or even at the worst automatic relegation.

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10 Jan 2017 18:25:24
so shift a few to make room - get rid on manquillo? - shift either Borini or Defoe - get rid of oshey / pinaer / larson - because they will all go when we get demoted - the point is we have to do something unless we believe these - guys will turn round our season - for me it is only madness to let Defoe go if we do not replace him - I would rather see Anicheby through the centre rather than out on the wing (to accommodate Defoe through the middle! ) - he would be more of a handfull for the centre halves than Defoe! - as much as I like Defoe, I believe the rest of our play is compromised because of him - If he could get the same number of goals as a secondary striker to Anicheby or similar then I would believe he was irreplacible - and we would get the best from Anicheby - What ever the whys and wherefors - we can't afford to go down without a fight - so only sell if we have a replacement - but to me we will only fail if we fail to act - because 20 goals from Defoe won't save us!

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10 Jan 2017 21:39:35
Getting rid is all well and good, how though? Their wages alone make them entirely unattractive to other teams, then would we be able to replace them in time? As it stands we can't even get someone before we sell as we can't pay them till we see, it's a catch 22 our only option would be direct swaps, which would probably end up with us again paying part of their wages for the remainer of their contracts which we're still doing now for some who've left.
As for defoe, if we play 90% long balls to him he'll never amount to much, he's an entire foot shorter than most defenders. It's a stupid idea no matter how you spin it. Which makes it even more crazy that at least three managers have persisted with it. With a tall forward he at least gets near the ball more which is much better, as it stands though he's pretty much our only hope atm.

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11 Jan 2017 09:59:38
Agree with what you say about Defoe - that's why I say play Anicheby in the Defoe role as Anicheby would be far more effective there - and if that means Defoe is then less effective as a secondary striker than say Borini (who is currently shoved out to the wings) - then sell Defoe - offers have been made and wages would be freed to bring in new blood -
Or alternativly we can just leave it as it is - let Defoe score 20 goals for us as the main target man - and still go down because the rest of our play is in effective!

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11 Jan 2017 10:25:28
In Short what I am trying to say is Defoe in the main striker's role is a major asset infront of goal but a burden as to how the whole team play to accommodate him.

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13 Jan 2017 11:15:04
Sunderland have no one else the team is rubbish and we all know that, we need a full middfield and one or two more strikers as well as 3-4 defenders but that takes money witch we don't have and never will have because elis short is wanting out of the club and is not going to spend much more on us

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15 Jan 2017 00:41:14
Another inept performance against a poor Stoke team! the whole club is a joke! Moyes never uses the kids on the bench he needs to go now!

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15 Jan 2017 13:44:00
I was appalled at the display yesterday against Stoke. How can you expect to win a Premier League game with two village idiots on your team Djilobodji and Love.

Borini should have been subbed at half time pathetic but would you want and Italian in the tranches when you need battlers

They are simply not good enough and who bought them Moyes.

Moyes must be sacked ASAP but it will not happen because of Bain and Short.

They did not even compete and I feel sorry for Januszai who is like a thoroughbred playing with selling platers

Short you poxy face give Sunderland back to the supporters and we will play Co Durham Lads who would walk to play for Sunderland and I can pick a team from the Northern league where my son plays

If you look at history the only time Sunderland have been successful a majority of the team were North East born 1973 70% of the squad was local

Get rid of all the foreigners who do not want to play for Sunderland and give local lads a chance who know what Sunderland mean to the local population would would give 110%

When I was leaving the premier concourse I noticed a portrait of Shack and Raich Carter what must they be thinking

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04 Jan 2017 03:18:01
Fenerbahce will offer Sunderland Defender Gregory Van Der Wiel, and Striker Emmanuel Emenike for Jeremain Lens.

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17 Nov 2016 23:54:29
I see M, villa is in talks to join us on loan for the rest of the season? and subject to us staying up in a permanent deal? well question is if that's true how much money are we going to pat Rubuen his club? is it Poundland negotiations again?

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30 Sep 2016 18:18:28
Hi eds

Any chance of allardyce going back to sunderland?

{Ed002's Note - No, that won't be happening DSG.}

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04 Oct 2016 23:27:36
More chance of Elvis signing for us lol . mind with the growing injury list Nial Quinn may be putting his boots on for us soon!

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30 Aug 2016 12:22:26
So here we go again! Of course, club must be practically bankrupt- as reflected by a summer transfer season that has seen 17 players leave and only six arrive, but impact on first team squad is especially depressing. Three regular members of the team gone, three more with injuries that might keep them out till we are once again established at the foot of the table.

Only three first team players in - two on loan and the other on a one-year pre-retirement contract. And again desperately trying to find anyone who will come here at the last minute, when quality is poor and prices are highest. It can't be Moyes' fault, because he has not been here long enough and besides, we have seen it all before. But if you are a struggling team and you don't send clear messages that you intend to improve by making early and quality signings, then you can expect to be left scrambling for the players nobody else wants as the window closes.

Did not Sam tell us in June that the club would make sure that we were not in this position again? Maybe he would still be here if he had been able to make key signings at the beginning of the summer, instead of being made to wait till the end of season 'sale' of left-over stock!

Short has presided over so many false dawns that it is impossible to believe any real progress is possible till he goes. We are a poor side, with an even poorer administration- little wonder no-one wants to come here.

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30 Aug 2016 13:25:17
Totally agree, we are again a laughing stock of a club, no more excuses or complex reasons for this load of crap, the fans have been taken for fools once again!

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30 Aug 2016 18:44:53
Agree to both above comments! the simple truth IMO is we aren't offering the sort of money the clubs or players want so its Poundland shopping again and as history has shown that's a recipe for relegation! what more annoying is that other so called big clubs like Stoke lol . cash spend vast sums on the quality of player that will keep them in the premiership! I feel sorry for Moyes as he's trying to sign these players but restricted by the penny pinching management of S. A. F. C . again as already said this club is a joke and run by people who don't care about the club and more importantly . THE SUPPORTERS . we deserve better!

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30 Aug 2016 22:54:41
I see we are now after a French midfielder to replace Lens? so why do we find a replacement FIRST before we sold Lens? . AND does that mean Kone will now be transferred to pay for this Frenchman? . time will tell! We always do things back to front at this club!

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29 Aug 2016 09:17:50
this might make light of the plight
Ellis Short ready to sell according to the Mirror

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29 Aug 2016 18:44:21
I hope he does Roker Roar because the club is £138 million in debt through his stupidity and the clowns he has surrounded himself with

Who would have Margaret Byrne as a Ceo, Hutchinson as a Commercial Director and the latest appointment Bain a former male model who is bald as a brick. What was he modelling hairpieces

The man is a laughing stock and the sooner he sells the better and he can be a recluse Short as he has always wanted.

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30 Aug 2016 18:40:04
Just gets worse! Of those with an equally poor start, Palace, who have already strengthened thoughtfully added Loic Remy today, while Burnley took Bamford from Chelsea. Of those we expected to be scrapping at the bottom as the season progresses, 'Boro nipped in for Chamberlain, while Hull have signed Mason and Keane, as well as a GK Marshall, and Swansea have picked up Mawson- another player we were rumoured to have an interest in. Meanwhile we have failed to land taregets from Seville, Man City, Chelsea, Spurs, Liverpool and God knows where else in the space of 12 hours! come the end of the season we may well be wondering why we let one of our more creative players and (given we have so few players who seem to know where the net is) someone we have to regard as a regular goalscorer and source of assists go out on loan before we had recruited anyone who could do either to replace him. Is there any chance we could send Short on loan to a Turkish club, or Bain to the Conference South.?
Does anyone manage the club's transfer strategy? Does the club even have a strategy, because there has been precious little evidence of one for a good six seasons now. The continuing failure of the club to match the passion and commitment of the supporters- either in the boardroom or on the field- is a disgrace.

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30 Aug 2016 18:46:55
Good Riddance Ellis! I just wish a mega rich middle eastern football lover would buy the club ( like Man City) and bring the glory days back to this once famous club!

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