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29 Jul 2014 17:14:44
Luis pedro cavanda is another name to put into the pot

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1.) So would that mean no Vergini?


2.) I'm guessing if we sign Cavanda on the right then Vergini will be brought in for CB since Gus has said he can do both.


 

 

29 Jul 2014 14:04:09
Safc in negotiations over a striker! Don't get to exited it's max clayton from Crewe

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1.) Good signing, but he seems a ways off from making starting XI. Seems there should be more pressing matters.


2.) So we didn't sign a top quality international champions league/league winning player…but it's ok, we're gunna sign a player from Crewe (who can't get a new contract)

{Ed001's Note - he was offered a new contract and turned it down! Clayton has been earmarked as one of the top young prospects in English football since he was about 13. His brother Harry got a contract purely to keep the lad happy at one point. If he gets the right coaching, you have a gem there. It is just pure ignorance on your part to whine about the signing.}


3.) How many fu*king future stars and gems and the next big thing ever turn out the way they expected
Take Mavrias for example,

And even if we have a FUTURE gem, that's not what we need, we aren't Man U, we need quality now! We have a relegation season staring us in the face


4.) 29 Jul 2014 22:50:56
Is it ignorant or is it fans sick of hearing "it's one for the future"
Fans love seeing a young player come through into the 1st team but our track record is not good. In the last few seasons we've had a lot of young players realised, or if they do make it to the 1st team there sold on or let contracts run out. Wickham still not renewed his contract yet. So forgive us for not getting to exited

{Ed001's Note - it is ignorant to whine like it is some 40 year old coming for a big payday. No wonder no kids come through with the attitude you two are showing! They have no hope with whiners like you on their back before they even kick a ball for the team. No wonder English football is such a state with the attitude of the whiney, want it all now fans! You aren't a rich club, Sunderland are not even seen as a big club by players, you are also based in an area that is seen as unattractive to them. The only way the club will ever be able to progress is to target young, hungry players and give them a shot. I don't mean the way Wickham was 'given a shot' out of sheer desperation after being ignored for years while lazy drunken wasters like Fletcher keep them out of the team. I mean a real chance, like Raheem Sterling got at Liverpool or Luke Shaw at Southampton. Both had poor patches in their first season, but both clubs stood by them and it paid off, in different ways. It really annoys me this attitude towards youth footballers in the UK. No one has any patience with them! It seems everyone has forgotten how Ian Rush was so poor for Liverpool in his first 3 years that it lead to the removal of the scout who brought him to the club. He didn't end up so bad. There are umpteen examples similar to that, but still people don't want to bother because they would rather have some big name player who is ready now. This isn't the Martin O'Neill era, when coaching was non-existent and anyone under 35 was considered a kid, this is Poyet. Maybe you should all give him a chance to see if he is capable of bringing through some younger players?}


5.) 29 Jul 2014 23:02:04
Though it has been Sunderland's young players that have being playing well in pre season. Mandron scoring again tonight.


6.) But we need players that can do it now!
Fair enough, give the kid a shot, but we need something better!


7.) I live near crewe and my mrs brother played with max clayton and nick Powell and clayton is talked about being better than nick powell so this could be a really good signing for the club


8.) The BPL gives youngsters way more of a chance than any other league in Europe. That's why you can mention names like Sterling and Rooney in your argument. And it's great to have investments for the future, I wish we gotten a couple at CB a few years ago. But how long is a "future star" going to stay with a club that gets relegated? How long before the board cashes in on him after he's been turned into a better player? As fans we want what's best for the club, but we also want entertaining football and the chance to say we're in the top flight. A future star is a gamble, we need a lock right now. There are less than 3 weeks left before the season starts and we're 5-7 players short of where we need to be. Sign the kid, but also get someone for the now.


9.) I'm not whining about the kids I'm unhappy at the way the young players are treated by our past managers and the board. As I said the fans love to see the young players come through. Yes it's happening at other clubs but not ours, that's why we're not getting excited over it.
I do believe in Gus and think given the chance he'll build a good squad of player but as all managers his hands are tied.
Wickham will probably leave for nothing or will have a good start to the season and get sold in January to the first cheque that gets waved in front of the boards noses.
Think it's ignorant of you to think it's the fans that make or break a player when it's managers and boards that make the decisions. What team do you support ed? Must be a so called big club that's has a great youth policy and you've been so happy with all there signings

{Ed001's Note - it is not ignorant, it is the truth that kids have to be taken out of teams because of the fans. It is why Sunderland got Borini on loan last season, because the Liverpool fans got on his back through no fault of his own. It is ridiculous that fans give them grief when they are kids. Kids are extremely inconsistent, it comes with a lack of experience. As for who I support, it is Liverpool, and we had our own problems in recent years with trying to clinch signings due to a lack of Champions League football.}


10.) Everyone loves as young, hungry player with potential- but I think the lads above are just stating our obvious lack of firepower, let just hope the board have one eye on the present aswell as the future.


 

 

22 Jul 2014 21:24:39
Carlisle 0 - safc 1

A good chance to see a lot of the younger players

You'll never win the title with kids!

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1.) The youngsters outclassed the seniors

Bad sign


 

 

21 Jul 2014 22:10:46
According to borini's agent he want to stay at Liverpool, fair enough. Think I'd go for sow.
Fletcher, sow, whickham and altidore then wait till January and see if altidore has figured out what that thing is with posts and a net. Then maybe try and get borini on a discounted price when he realised he's not kicked a ball in 6 months

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1.) 21 Jul 2014 23:49:13
A harsh yet somewhat realistic view of the season ahead. Borini will be 5th choice at best as a striker and Altidore will maybe play a bit better but won't score for toffee.


2.) 21 Jul 2014 23:52:18
I think Altidore will come good next season and as for Fletch hell score goals as long as he keeps fit but we need another striker!. as for Borini if he doesn't want to come here .we need to close this issue and look else where


3.) Fletcher, altidore, whickham. Are Last years misfits the best we can do. we need a decent striker and forget all these loan players. we are just grooming them for other clubs and if we want to sign them after a decen. t season we pay thru the nose


 

 

09 Jul 2014 18:42:54
Does anyone know what's happening regarding the invest in Africa that safc got involved in? My understanding was that one of the reasons we got involved was to boost safc shirt revenue. How are we getting on with that? Sold any yet?

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1.) 11 Jul 2014 10:10:25
Invest in Africa was set up bu Tullow Oil to improve their very dodgy image. No other company would invest in the fund and Sunderland became concerned about bad publicity when Tullow were taken to court in Uganda on bribery and environmental damage charges. Both parties walked away from the deal which was supposed to be worth £20 million a season - that's 20 times what Tombola was worth.

Bidvest are also an African company but you'd have to sell a lot of shirts to make £20 million.


2.) 12 Jul 2014 02:38:49
So another poor decision made by the safc board. They fill ya with confidence


3.) 12 Jul 2014 04:06:07
We should be investing in the team than in africa lol


 

 

 

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15 Sep 2014 22:18:13
Abel Hernandez goes straight into the hull team and starts scoring.
Come on jozy it's time to shine!

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1.) And Enner Valencia smashes one in too

Seriously though, there is plenty of top strikers that we could have got, some were snapped up, others haven't been, e. g, sow, Emenike, Rondon, all really fast, power houses that are aggressive and WILL score goals, even for us


 

 

12 Aug 2014 07:20:38
Scott Sinclair says he might have to leave man city to play regular football. Must be worth a bid.
If rumours are true we're after Micah Richards, might as well go for guidetti

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24 Jul 2014 03:22:56
Borini has a shoulder injury so if there was a deal to be had then it could now be off.

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1.) Unfortunately not
He's only out for 2 days
Wish it was 2 weeks so we could finally move on


 

 

23 Jul 2014 23:00:20
Another good display by the kids. Maybe we're not planning on buying anyone else

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22 Jul 2014 19:02:08
Caulker signs for QPR. Don't think we even tried

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02 Sep 2014 19:33:21
Good luck trying to get that £2millon after borini rots in the reserves

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01 Sep 2014 22:28:22
Apparently borini wanted 90k a week at QPR!

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29 Aug 2014 20:11:38
Diakite has had his contract canceled. Fingers crossed there clearing them out so two quality centre backs can come in.

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27 Aug 2014 23:08:19
He will defiantly score against QPR

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27 Aug 2014 20:08:12
I thought brown and o'shea would have been rested tonight.
Altidore to score!

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15 Sep 2014 07:44:07
Because it's easier to criticise it takes no thought process. People forget Gus and lee joined the club when it was rock bottom, we somehow managed to stay up! Then they had to clean up the mess from other managers, most the team left through out of contract, loans returned and fringe players kicked out. Then had to start rebuilding the team on a budget. Another bunch of players has to start learning to play together. Yes we still have a lot of work to do re the team ie defence and strikers and will rely on keepers and midfield this season but we have a good base to start building on.

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02 Sep 2014 19:24:33
Gus and lee probably had the hardest job to do in the whole premiership, after a mass clear out they had to rebuild with the right players within a budget in a world of greedy players and there agents.
Yea things could have been better but I do think we are finally heading in the right direction. Still loads of work to do, whickham sign or be sold, other strikers need to score or be sold then replaced. Need more defenders, loan players will need to be bought or replaced(who was the last loan player we bought)?
Have no idea how we'll do this season, hopefully we can stay up and start playing some decent football

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01 Sep 2014 23:18:57
Thought Gus had hung up his boots

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24 Aug 2014 10:29:47
Yea I thought this and thought we would have been linked to a few players from the bundesliga. If only we had a director of football that had worked over there!

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21 Aug 2014 09:18:11
Ok maybe borini is over valued right now but he is a player that Gus knows and that could fit straight into the team. A young player with regular football under Gus would see his value increase greatly

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