Sunderland Banter Archive October 01 2013

01 Oct 2013 21:29:35
I don't know why everyone is worried and or panicking.

Worse case scenario we get relegated.
Not as bad as it seems.

Parachute payments are higher than before because of the new money from the media deal. That would help and be an advantage in the championship.

We could get rid of the deadwood and rebuild.

One step back is sometimes two steps forward. We could change our style of play and go through the transitional period better in the championship as its more forgiving than the premier league. Also bring through the youth. Aka Swansea changed style of play in the lower leagues also Southampton came back stronger for being in the championship and league one.

Now I'm not saying I expect us to go down or anything as its very early but just look at the bigger picture its not all bad. let's just get behind the lads and new manager and remember we are a work iin progress.

We need a manager for the long term, I hope to god the next one lasts at least 6 years.

Is this post for real please tell me not

Thats a ridiculous post. You don't just rebuild in the championship. Its a very tough league where you need to compete every single week. there's lots of clubs in there who vie for promotion. We will be struggling financially regardless of parachute payments and there are many clubs who said the same thing when they went down never to be seen again. We must do everything to survive.

If we stop up, you can rebuild in the summer, going down is not an option, we need a couple of wins which is not impossible to catch up and build from their, by your post you writing us off already, you say get behind the lads then get behind them instead of saying we down coz I believe we can turn it around and finish midtable

Lets face it the team is sh*te and will be relagated. we can rebuild next year in the championship. does not really matter which manager comes in as the players are simply just not good enough. we better enjoy playing teams such as Man Utd and Man city etc as the only chance of this next year will be in the FA or Capital one cup.

To be honset if we played a 442 with a second decent striker against Liverpool we might have got a point as I think Altidore put in a good shift but was missing a helping hand from a second striker. If Mr short is serious about the football club he will put his hand in his pocket and spend big on a quality striker. if this does not happen we will vanish.

Stop being the Prophets Of Doom FFS. We will not be relegated. We have had some shocking bad luck so far which has denied us some points. This will even itself out over the season. Better to change the manager if bottom after 6 games than when bottom at Xmas. This way the new guy has time to sort it out.

I think the OP makes a lot of good points.

Like you lot he dosnt expect relegation he states that.

But he wants to discuss the positives of our situation in a worse case scenario.

As usual with blind faith you lot can not use your brains and just dismiss everything. No doubt your all just silly kids were getting a lot of them on here unfortunately.

No team in the history of the premier league with only one point from six games has EVER stayed up. So the reality is with our yoyo history relegation is very much a possibility.

The championship is competative but we have always bounced back.

Well done OP some interesting points I very much agree with. Relegation is not wanted but is not the end of the world.

Well if you agreeing with the OP then your a mag or another negative so called Sunderland fan, ffs 6 games in and you are writing us off, 32 games to go, 2 wins from getting out of the relegation places, we lost to liverpool so what! they 2nd and in form, we deserved at least a draw, arsenal 2nd half we deserved to get something, as I have previously stated too many negative clueless fans who should just go and support the mags!

I don't think it's reasonable for a mag to have a thought in this
However it is in the balance
Players weren't getting results, they blamed the boss which resulted in his departure, now it is up to them to prove themselves right and get the results, but if they don't, they can only have themselves to blame

When you look at our squad on paper it is very good, as is Newcastle's, yet results are bad, we can't say they havnt gelled because that's bull, they've had more than enough time, it just shows the lack of commitment in some of the players,
Cattermole-isn't the most eye catching player or technically the best but there is a reason he is a fans favourite, his passion, he plays for the shirt, not the money
Sessegnon-The most eye catching player and technically the best and on every blue moon, a fans favourite but there is a reason he was kicked out (which was the right thing to do) his commitment, he had 3 blinders a season and that was it, he'd go out drinking and not going to support the lads at games whilst I hear that Cattermole drinks bl**dy juice! This summer wasnt the best for him, he could have easily walked away from the club with no regret but he didn't, he stayed and proved why he can and should be in the team, yes he can be a hot head, but I have great respect for him

01 Oct 2013 17:10:13
Sky reporting it was the player's who had the bust up not di canio and the players.

Now all this has come out! The players need to start to perform because they owe us fans big time! O Shea and his fellow upstarts! That's three managers we've gone through! Because these under achieving footballers!!

If that's the case in fighting among the players is a bad thing our club is rotten to the core and unless someone comes in to sort this out we are in one fine mess

Couldn't care less if he was hated Mara cause if I was on fifty sixty grand a week I would run through brick walls! The fact remains they are overpaid pampered prima donnas! I'm a ex soldier! Who's be there in very difficult situations? Getting screamed at humiliated you name it! But I was still professional enough to do my job! Where have these so called internationals been they need to step up to the plate and quick! Disgruntled fan! Stop making excuses for these overpaid prima donnas there the ones to. Blame they go out on the pitch! We can all see who's not been doing!!

01 Oct 2013 13:18:48
i have strong feelings its going to be martin Jol from fulham the power crazy owner wants a more high profile boss? which is martin oneill! i'm not being funny but I think Jol is more high profile than oneill lol I hope we get Jol he would bring organisation and good football and team spirit to the club and is very experienced at this level

Hope you're joking about jol he is rubbish. Fulham only create 1 or 2 real chances per game so if they concede they more than likely get beat. Their only win this season was a smash and grab against us. If he's still at fulham they'll go down with us.

After watching Fulham at the sol I think they will be going down with us and palace

Bringing in Taarabt says it all. Any manager that rates that guy as a valuable addition to their squad loses any credibility. Redknapp must be praying Fulham follow up their mistake and buy him perm.

01 Oct 2013 08:52:32
I can't stand Harry Rednapp but at this moment in time, out of all the others, I would take him. Why has he not been mentioned?

Coz he won't move this far up north and QPR are going to win the championship so why should he and no thanks you all seen what he did to QPR Last season

''no thanks you all seen what he did to QPR Last season''

Redknapp did not get QPR sent down last season, he came in to try and save the club, but the rot was too deep.
Redknapp has improved QPR dramatically, they are good enough for the Premier League and why would he leave a team he has just built the foundations for?

Look at the players Redknapp signed for a championship club, he signed much better players than you did.

Mark Hughes did to QPR what PDC did to you. Built a team with no strategy or style, a complete frankenstein's monster, assembled with left over parts from other clubs.

Worry aboput your own team mugpie, redknapp came in and signed lots of money grabbing players FACT and he took them down as they only wanted the paycheck, paulo didn't give the players he brought in big wages, most of them have european experience, they just don't have premiership experience, there is already good signs they are settling in well now, once Sunderland get that 1st win then we will rise that table, best we could hope for is midtable now, After your pathetic showing at everton and throwing away the lead and losing to hull, your team is on downfall bigtime!

Above post who are we going to beat on what you have seen this season we will end up as the whipping boys unless we get someone in like redknapp only someone like tony pullis can save us from the drop no nonsense manager will get the best out of the likes of oshea cuellar and the likes or will drop them like a stone

Redknapp, pulis? you are just another one of these negative deluded fans, so pulis right, long ball football, bullying teams and his stoke team had the big players to do that we don't, redknapp - QPR top of the championship and redknapp won't come up north! who else do you want, have you watched our last 2 games, we finally played positive football, attacking teams, sure we lost to liverpool but they on form and howard webb made sure they won with his biased decisions, if you can't see that we have improved our football under bally then I worry for what you think we should be doing!

Improved under bally we beat a side from league one and got beat off a Liverpool side that never broke sweat if mignolet hadn't spilled that shot we would have been 0-3 as for managers who should we get poyet who will go the same way as di canio we need a manager in who has the balls to tell the likes of oshea cuellar and the rest their playing days in the premiership are numbered