Sunderland Banter Archive September 24 2013

24 Sep 2013 20:59:14
Give the job to Kevin ball.

I agree give bally it with reidy along side him. 2 honest dedicated men who love safc and know the fans will back them. bally is a class act

Good start for bally, one game at a time but see how we do against liverpool 1st

I would see how we play in the next 2 games and then decide if he gets it. Impressive stuff tonight though. Safc93

I wouldn't jump the gun yet it's one game, plus non premier team it's different ball game on sunday. The test will start from that day, I do think we had a good game last night, I would personaly like zola, I like the way he gets his team playing attractive football, but we will just have to wait and see.

Yep, give Kevin Ball the job for masterminding a win against a League 1 side not interested in the cup. LMAO

A league one side Mugpie who average scoring 3 goals a game and are 2nd in their table having won 8 put of 10 games, not like playing the mighty morecambe is it SGB? look chelsea only beat swindon 2-0 and they lower than peterborough

People getting carried away

24 Sep 2013 15:57:51
Anybody else think we should field a full strength team tonight to at least try and show that we have some sort of potetial to some protractive manager targets?

Yes, we need to find our strongest team and stick with it which we havnt done which makes us lose games

24 Sep 2013 15:16:24
To be fair to De Canio, I keep reading he signed 14 players. I thought the Football Director (whatever that is) signed them.

24 Sep 2013 08:20:41
If reports that 'senior players' refused to play and told Di Canio that 'nobody wants you at this club' are true, then they should be ashamed of themselves. How many of them believe that the fans want players with so little to offer at the club? Can the fans, too, sneak off for a word with Margaret Byrne and have them sent on their way? These players have been a source of embarrassment on and off the field, and whatever Paulo's shortcomings, they should behave like men and get on with it, not go whingeing behind his back like spoilt little brats. If Short really wants to show he will not tolerate mediocrity, the players involved should follow the manager out of the door. The constant factors in years of disappointment are players like O'Shea, Cattermole, Larsson, and their overpaid colleagues. Managers have come and gone but we still have a core of players who are just not good enough. Despite his limitations, it is a pity Paulo did not last for one more window and get rid of the the lot of them!

Sorry mate that would have been down to the Director of Football, what ever that is. What a laugh, the manager not having a say.

I totally agree with the first post, the club must get rid of this core of p**s head players who have upended at least 2 and maybe 3 good managers. These so called senior players are happy to go through the motions week in and week out, and come on, we know the players who are not giving 100%. It has got to be addressed by the club to give any new manager a chance.

Could not agree more. The revolution must not stop. The second rate moaning, freeloading neanderthals have to go.

Mag here in peace. I have worked in a situation where the manager was great at blaming people and praising himself, in the end the whole team under him contacted the area manager for the meeting as morale was rock bottom business was suffering and we produced a list of grievances which he was confronted with he denied them but we were back up by another senior staff member and he was demoted and decided to leave. The players confronted PDC because morale and motivation was at rock bottom, I have got to say that if he had stayed I believe Sunderland would have went down, this way you have got more of a chance of turning the season around. We had a similar problem at Newcastle a few years ago when Gullitt was in charge. PDC had to go. More and more stuff is coming out in the press eg players banned from speaking to tea lady etc. It could not have been a healthy place to play in, it would have greatly affected the players mental well being, that will take time to rebuild

The players who started the revolt have got to go, they are now bigger than the club because they have had a manager sacked, you can't just go spitting the dummy out every time something doesn't go there way, too long have these overpaid underperforming persons gotten away with it, a list of the underperformers are below (in my opinion)
Oshea
Cattermole
Vaughn
Larsson
Cuellar
Bardsley
Johnson
Colback
Whickham
Too long have these players been picking 30-60 thousand a week and offering absolutely nothing in return, I honestly wouldn't be bothered if all of these players quit and left tomorrow, all they want to do is puck up there pay check and piss it against the wall, too long have I wasted my money watching this absolute drivel.

First post maybe that's why we couldn't ship any of those players out those who pdc wanted rid of. other managers and agents will know who the trouble makers were and wouldn't touch them with a barge pole

Cattermole? did you see him tonight he was a breath of fresh air

24 Sep 2013 07:52:27
Most likely to be Sunderland manager
Giafranco zola
Steve Mcclaren
Curbishley
Nigel Pearson
Tony pulis

Di matteo? poyet? mancini mentioned? even caello says Di Matteo would be good for sunderland

Mancini would never go. deluded.

I said mancini mentioned not that he will come, that was paper and betting talk, your ownly jealous coz you have le pardpoo for 6 more years! haha Mugpie!

Looking like Poyet, still want RDM though

24 Sep 2013 07:22:56
No manager stands a chance while there is poison at the heart of the squad. We need to know who these 'senior players' are that forced this revolt, and they need to be driven out. We have underacheived for years while these 'senior players' have taken the pay cheque and gone on the piss. They have to be named, and they have to go.

What poison?
I agree that too many players are overpaid and pampered too much.
We are never going to change that.
A manager has to manage that situation.
It is not a Sunderland problem, it is global one. Other managers cope.
However, do we know what was going on behind the scenes?
It takes a lot for players to refuse to play ( they were not after a payrise ).
Short acted because it was the right thing to do. Players complaining was just the final nail in his coffin.

There's a hard core of lazy piss heads who managed to force a manager out because he wanted them to be professional. The new players will follow their lead if they aren't dealt with. Its poison, and successful managers deal with it by getting rid.

Reports in most of the media are saying that Cattermole was the head figure. pity short didn't have the balls of Ashley he had the right idea and got rid of the main instigators at his club in barton and Nolan. I fear our club are in a position from where there is no return unless these players who don't deserve to wear a red and white shirt are kicked out of the club we won't be able to attract a decent manager

Catts oshea larson that's them