Sunderland Banter Archive September 26 2015

 

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26 Sep 2015 19:38:45
Keep wasting your hard earned wages lads. You know you will buy your tickets for West Ham next week. Then don't complain after the defeat. Vote with your feet. Advocaat needs to go now and enjoy his not so well earned retirement. We can't wait too long for big Sam. It will be too late by Christmas. Looks like that new hotel will be a big white elephant. Can't see the corporates coming when we are home to MK Dons. Believe it because it's coming. Get your heads out of the sand and send the club a message. Vote with your feet next week and use your hard earned cash on taking your loved one out for a drink or nice meal. Surely money well spent instead of lining the pockets of Advocaat, Congerton and inadequate players. Go on, just for one week.

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27 Sep 2015 00:19:23
Another abject display plus can't understand DA s team PVA should have been dropped weeks ago!. put him in the U21s!same with Kaboul! why give Brown a years contract when he doesn't PLAY! and why AGAIN ignore the likes of Watmore and Gooch?? i'm losing faith in DAs ability to pick change aside paticullaly 4-3-3 which isn't working! Short can't wait till Christmas to make a decision!

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27 Sep 2015 06:03:13
Another poor performance OK it was Manchester United but come on. How long does Mr short need or is he planning on nxt season in the championship? We need big Sam now before November and these Christmas fixtures or we will go down.

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28 Sep 2015 20:23:44
big sam you must be having a laugh his style of play or should I say his lack of a style of play makes him a complete none starter in my eyes. if we are going to change managers then viera would be the ideal candidate, someone with balls who will not only tell these players that are prancing around like over paid prima donna's that they are not good enough.

at least he will have the balls not to pick them. also he is doing a good job with the young lads at man city so hopefully if the papers are right and we do get him in as our new manager we might see some of the young lads given a chance they deserve.

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29 Sep 2015 10:43:35
Style of play?what style of play have we been playing for the last three season's plus,this isn't about pretty football it's simply survival again,I haven't seen any decent football by sunderland home or away for God knows how long,I think a reality checks in order one Gary Rowell!

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29 Sep 2015 18:58:52
I normally agree with one gary rowell but on Viera definitely not.I am old school and remember when this disgusting piece of work was jumping up over a ruck of players to spit at an opponent. people like that don't change.

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29 Sep 2015 19:43:39
chops, I totally agree we haven't been playing any style of football for the last three seasons and like I have said on previous posts going back to poyet as manager. poyet and dick have their own style of football they would like to have been able to play but we don't have the calibre of players to do that.

as for big sam, I wouldn't waste my money paying to watch what he serves up effective as it is you only have to look at the decent job he did at west ham yet the fans wanted him out due to his tactics which by the way might suit the rubbish we have at the moment. as for viera, chris I disagree. I bet you were one of the thousands of us who were over the moon with the appointment of roy keane, who I think had he been given the backing instead of the falling out with ellis short have done a good job for the club. but this is the same keane who deliberately set out to lame haaland and finished his career a lot worse than viera.

what I am saying is we need someone in charge who has the balls to drop players who are not good enough and to give the kids a chance as most football now a days is all about pace and the chance to run at people, which we have seen gooch and what more do to good effect.

I am a realistic and don't follow the club expecting a top ten finnish but what I do expect is passion and commitment which we are not getting last week in the cup against man city and the league game against Manchester United I didn't expect us to get anything from the game so if I was manager giving some of the young lads a start to see how good they actually are, because to be honest they can't have done any worse lads. sorry about the long post but I get passionate about the club I have followed for over 40 years and its annoying me to see the way the club is going

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26 Sep 2015 18:48:59
So what was worse than the result?
I will tell you
The fact that we didn't score.
Why?
29 out of my 30 teams in goals galore scored.
Guess which team didn't!!
Yep
Lost out on 5k
Never mind there's always next week!!

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26 Sep 2015 19:29:13
I'm not sure how that bet goes Rusty but Sunderland to score? REALLY?????

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26 Sep 2015 16:53:43
Accurate analysis. Now that's how you do it!!!!

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26 Sep 2015 08:05:37
GN, I can honestly say that I disagree with about 90% of your analysis and am struggling to think how you justify the other 10%. It's summed up with the final comment and the use of the word ' hopefully ' it doesn't matter one jot if we look good going forward if we are playing a system that leaves us totally exposed at the back. Now that is the fault of the manager who chooses the system we play and that is the problem. You are hanging on to your rose tinted glasses in my opinion and if the same system is employed today I predict a comfortable 3 - 0 victory to Man Utd. I (hope) I am wrong but the use of the word ' hope ' is probably better used in this context.

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28 Sep 2015 10:07:20
Can you be more specific about the 90% you disagree with? I see nothing there that is not fact about managers selecting poor players for Congerton to sign, the core of the squad being the same poor quality overpaid players that have been there for 4-5 years that we can't get off our books, the new players being better quality than what we had already and the fact that we are a relegation battling team that is an unattractive option when trying to sign new players.

I also state the same as you that Dick has a formation that leaves us exposed at the back.

So please clarify which 90% points you disagree with?

Thanks

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28 Sep 2015 11:51:22
To be brief, all your positives, your comments on Advocaat and Congerton as one is past it and the other an abject failure, your comments on the quality players we have signed. I for one am waiting to see it on the pitch and your conclusion. That's about 90% I would say.

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28 Sep 2015 16:31:43
I realise that this is all about opinions so we the fans may differ but from my side I'm afraid you are too negative. Last year Dick was our saviour, the same as Gus and PDC the seasons before. Funny how quick our fans turn and he's suddenly passed it as you state! People asking for Big Sam (Football by numbers) is a step in the wrong direction as well IMO.

Congerton to me is hard to judge as you have no idea who he has tried to sign, who has turned us down, who he was told to sign and so on. I therefore find it hard to put so much blame and criticism at his door. He may well be useless but I point the fingers towards scouts, managers past and present, and coaching before I look to him!

I also struggle to see how you can query some of the new players, M'Vila in particular, being better quality than what we had already? We might not be performing on the pitch yet but you can see they have more about them than last years crop.

My concern is Watmore. On fire in the U21's, singled out by England U21's as stand out performer and Dick won't play him. I'd have him straight in instead of Johnson and have him, Lens and Borini terrorising defences. We could then tell our full backs to try defending first! If we don't play him when he is in this type of form why would he sign a new deal to stay with us? This I do despair at!

Like I say, we all have our own views and I disagree with yours 90% the same as you do mine :-)

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