Sunderland Banter Archive October 06 2013

 

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06 Oct 2013 22:39:36
looks like the bookies have it between 4 poyet, rangnick, pulis and bally for me rangnick would be my first choice followed by bally only if we could get someone like peter reid to be his assistant.

Chris73

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Couldnt disagree more if I tried.

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06 Oct 2013 20:53:26
why doesn't Mr Short go all out and try to get Harry Redknapp to come to Wearside he's one of the best English managers in the game and he's always up for a challenge

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He won't move north mate, he was offered the Newcastle job but location finished it before it started. Also qpr are going to walk the championship and win the league so why would he leave.

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06 Oct 2013 20:22:51
I think this is our strongest team
___________Westwood____________

Celustka__Diakite__Roberge__Colback

_______Gardner_Ki_Ca'mole________

____Mavrias__________Giaccherini_______________Altidore_____________


DEFENCE-Celustka is one of our best players, he will always give a good 8/10 every week
Diakite- Fast, Strong, Good tackler and good in the air, everything O'Shea isn't
Roberge- our best defender, very calm and wins the ball well
Colback- always a team player, sometimes struggles but there isn't an alternative

MIDFIELD-Gardner-A good ball winner in midfield and doesn't give up, useful at set pieces as well
Catts-Great leader, puts everything into the game and protects the defence immensely
Ki-Our playmaker, very calm, cool and simple on the ball, he dictates the tempo of the team, takes the touch and plays the ball forward
Giaccherini-Our best player by miles, great on the ball, good vision, can score and surprisingly can use his head,
Mavrias-He is better than Johnson overall, Johnson is magic when he is involved but he just hides away, Mavrias injects the team with pace and skill, he isn't afraid to take a player on

STRIKER-Altidore-Low on confidence, he hasn't scored yet but he ain't to blame, he has nothing to work with, very strong on the ball and brings others into the game well


What's killed us lately is poor management skills and low self belief,
Ball is not the man, he insists on playing complete sh*t when he has far better options on the bench, he changes tactics when we get a hold of the game which then leads to problems

The player have no belief, the supporters go week in week out and it's not value for money, they don't want it, 1st half we were class, having a right go then second half it just changed they didn't show the eagerness to get forward and score, and I'm not just talking about yesterday, there has been times this season they just make armatures look good

This is why I worry for our season, on paper we have a good team, but mentally we deserve to be rock bottom, "unlucky" shouldn't be an option

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Oh for fuc* sake
Altidore is a striker on the next line down

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Agree with everything you said except you underrated Colback a bit

7SAFC7

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On paper Sunderland have an average inexperienced team. This is where the likes of Fulham, Norwich, Stoke west ham would run it ragged coz they haven't bought in 14 average inexperienced players

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We need to keep in touch with the teams at the bottom not getting too adrift and stay in the cup and hang in until January. Then we need to buy a good keeper and solid CB. Possibly a midfielder and striker if the finances allow. But a goalie and CB are desperately needed.
Then we will stay up and have a good team and season.

I agree with your team but obviously Fletcher for altidore when he's back.

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I agree with most of what you say but for me mannone replaces westwood as he commands his area better and Fletcher would replace gardner in a 4 4 2

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Fletch isn't in because he's injured

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If that's our best side then its championship football for us

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06 Oct 2013 20:11:35
I really hope that sunderland get a move on with appointing a new manager! As Kevin ball is not the man for the job! No disrespect kev ya still a legend! But let's be real! And now is ideal for the new man to get this lot in order and seriously shake it up! And I don't mean like pdc! Just with the international break! He can settle quickly! He has big decisions to make whoever it is! Whatever you say about pdc, regime he wanted to play football properly not resorting to the same old second half long ball tactics against man utd, Constantly putting ourselves under pressure giving the ball away! Football is a simple game look how west brom played today confidence belief pace and power!! So it can be done! And they haven't got team of top stars but they play as a team! So please sunderland board make the right decision but quickly! sunderland till I die!

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06 Oct 2013 19:14:18
People may give me crap but I think this is our year to get relegated
I will follow the team right till the end but we are well and truly knackered

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We're not down until its a mathematical certainty. There's a long way to go yet and though its going to be a long tough season if the right man comes in with a little organisation and motivation, we can do it.
Keep the Faith

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If we play the way we have the past few games we will beat the majority of teams and pick up points. But against arsenal, liverpool and man u we would never expect anything from the start! So if your always going to be so negative about us don't write nothing else.

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Your optimism is unfounded- over past seasons we have regularly looked better- well, a little less hopeless- against stronger teams- though rarely managing to actually win. Then we have seen the usual trash against teams we think we should be able to beat. If four league wins in 28 games has not convinced you that we are the team everyone else expects to beat, what will? The only things that have been premier league at the SoL over the past three years have been the crowds and the wages we pay these dummies. So declaring undying support is not the answer- they've had it and shown they don't deserve it. Yes loyalty is important, but the players have not earned that any more than they have their wages. They have been pitiful, managers blaming players and players blaming managers. All the senior players (except Fletcher perhaps) have let the fans down so often we are used to their pathetic performances. Giaccherini puts them all to shame, just by trying all the time he is on the pitch. And as for playing the way we did on Saturday- if we gift two goals per game to the opposition we won't beat anyone, as we have seen. Not good enough is not good enough, whether you are playing teams at the top or the bottom. This team has not been good enough, and whoever comes in has to give the new players a chance.

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There are 14 new players in the squad and they deserve our support. They are not the ones responsible for the last 28 games as they have only been here for 7 games and have not been played together yet. We haven't played anywhere near the same line up twice.
Like I said some organisation and motivation will turn it around so try to be a SUPPORTER!

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06 Oct 2013 18:30:41
Another poor display; poor selection, no tactics, no organisation, appalling defending, little contribution from so-called senior players and incomprehensible substitutions. If we are going down- and no team with such a poor start has ever survived- the most positive thing we can do is bring in a manager who is told he can develop the young players we have brought in and re-build for a promotion attempt next season. O'Shea, Cuellar, Brown, Larsson and Vaughan should not play another game. Johnson should be sent out on loan to Hartlepool, maybe the regular kicking he would get in League Two would wake him up. (I remember a lazy Duncan Mackenzie being given a spell at Mansfield by Cloughie which did wonders for his attention) We need to give the likes of Karlsson, Diakite, Cabral and Mavrias extended runs; either they will start to show they can play, or at least we will know they are not good enough- it is pointless to sign all these players and then put the same old has-beens out week after week. Otherwise we might as well play Bally at centre-back and let O'Shea coach the U 21s- though perhaps that is a little unfair to the U21s.

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06 Oct 2013 16:55:13
It gets to a certain point where "unlucky" doesn't matter anymore

We have 1 point, need I say anything else

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06 Oct 2013 12:41:28
The biggest problem at Sunderland at present is that no-one at boardroom level seems to possess any common sense. There is no-one with a football background since Niall left and in my opinion this is where the root of the problem lies.
I accept the revenue stream has to be enhanced with opportunity from other fields as the click of a turnstile is nowhere near enough nowadays but those in charge of the club seem to have lost direction at what the core value is AND THAT IS THE FOOTBALL SIDE OF THE BUSINESS. We seem to be more focused on putting on a great summer concert now over a number of nights before anything else.
As I post this, the Marketing Director is jetting over to the USA to explore new business opportunities.

HELLO!! WE ARE BOTTOM OF THE PREMIERSHIP WITH ONLY ONE POINT FROM TWENTY-ONE, and without a full-time manager. Surely the best efforts are on Wearside and not on a jolly to Washington DC and Chicago for the next ten days.

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Spot on rob

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06 Oct 2013 11:41:21
Just been told that Ellis Short and company are going to do interviews next week, and Bally is is the running. Said that 138 people have but there name forward, club want to interview max of no more than 20. So a lot of CV to read and look through. Poyet is still the book makers favourite.

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06 Oct 2013 09:02:28
anyone know who the next manager is only sky and Ladbrokes taking bets now. having worked in betting for 20 years I would think the ones these 2 have in the betting won't get the job poyet pullis ball rangnick and yakin head the list

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06 Oct 2013 07:56:09
How bad does John O'Shea have to be before we drop him?

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The reason KB isn't right for the job is his decisions on subs etc, great effort yesterday but couldn't possibly play at that intensity for 90 mins, when guards went off he brought on Larsson, who is not and never will be a central mid, he had Cabral on the bench, what did he have to lose nothing but might have gained some creativity, also why not Borini instead of whickham, he has never changed a game yet coming on. tunnel vision syndrome is the biggest problem we have.

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Every time Westwood had the ball it was long ball up to Altidore, so predictable it was embarrassing. Ball let it continue for 90 mins.
Not good enough and we need new manager urgently.

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Whats not good enough is the "senior players" at this club, they have been letting us down and rolling over in games for 3 seasons now. Not at all sure any new manager could make them better, they are simply not good enough for this league no matter how much they tell us there are good players at the club.

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06 Oct 2013 07:42:58
That was the worst man utd side I've seen and if we were half decent would of beat them easy! Wasnt a good performance and that's basically because the players just aren't good enough apart from giaccherini and bally isn't the man to get the best out of them. Need a new manager in soon to get the likes of oshea, larsson, altidore out the team and give others a chance cabral, diakite, karlsson, borini etc. Like manutd did with that young'un.

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06 Oct 2013 04:27:30
So I see the 'toon teddy' post has when removed from the united page, safe to assume it was one of you lot?
It's a sad thing that times have got so bad for you that you're resorting to posting ridiculous rumours as a newcastle fan just so you have something to smile about, I want to laugh but I'm genuinley feeling a bit sorry for you guys. I honestly can't see u getting off the bottom of the table, surely you can't break your own record for least points scored in a season?

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Im a mag, but doesn't Derby hold that record?

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Probably taken off as it is so embarrassing to have fans that spout so much drivel.

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{Ed001's Note - no it was a Mackem posting drivel.}

I would not be surprised if it was a guy beginning with Z, that chap is obsessed and is on a mission to sabotage anything positive about Newcastle, a bit glum really.

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Hi ED sorry mate but your wrong I am Toon Teddy and I am a NEWCASTLE UNITED FAN. Is it right that you use the ip address and look at previous posts to see if poster is genuine or biased towards a certain club etc?well that's flawed because in my household there's me a geordie, my dad a geordie, my mam a mackem and my brother a mackem all using the same device and ip. We both me and my brother use the site so I intend to register mate but I am genuine so please post this because I intend to register the Toon Teddy name thanks.

Toon Teddy.

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{Ed001's Note - aye, convenient that is.}