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01 Aug 2016 11:01:33
Not a lot of posts on here these days which is disappointing.

The concerning thing for me is not just how the FA have dismantled our pre season but the lack of progress since DM joined us. Does this point to Big Sam not having targets in place or DM simply not liking the ones that SA did have?

The out of contract players and coupe who have been sold are not an issue to me. Two of the four loan players are not an issues either. Yedlin and M'Vila are however. These leave our first team (without injuries) weaker than where we finished last season. The fact that these have not been bought / replaced with alternates is very concerning.

The lack of new signing so close to season kick off is also worrying. Why do SAFC as a club always struggle to get deals over the line? Is this down to the club wanting long term structured payments?

The U21's (U23's as they now are) could now all be blooded fully which may or may not work. We shall see!

I think DM can bring stability to the club but new signings are desperately needed.

GNSAFC

1.) 08 Aug 2016 20:42:40
Well as it stands on 08/ 08/ 2016 one new signing from Chelsea who paid £3 million for him played one game and we pay £8 million

Why is it taking so long to get Mvila over the line. The lad will not be able to play straight away because he will not have match fitness

Also Yedlin is a must because if we start the season with Jones full back it is a disgrace.

Jones and O'Shea are surplus to requirements being two of the worst players I have ever seen at Sunderland

If it is again a horrendous start to the season Short is to blame and this is simply not good enough

Short is a recluse and I do not want a recluse as Sunderland owner.

He has never outlined his ambition for Sunderland we simply bump along and it is like Nero fiddles while Rome burns.

Why does he not increase the shareholding to generate more revenue like other clubs ie Crystal Palace but nothing happens

I would prefer another American owner to Short and his name is Trump.


2.) 09 Aug 2016 10:28:17
I don't blame Short as he has put copious amounts of money into the club. Yes he made mistakes but that was his lack of football knowledge but he is trying to stabilise the club.

My concern now is the club even considering selling Kone to Everton. I know 200% + profit in six months is great but he is tried and tested and has bought into the club. If they sell him it will be a total disgrace!

There is no one at Everton I would take to replace him either so players coming the other way do not excite me either.

4 days to go and still only one signing . Why do we struggle to get deals over the line!


3.) 09 Aug 2016 13:10:30
It would be a shocking decision to sell Kone to Everton, hope these rumours are wrong, but nowt surprises me with this club, no ambition at all. Same old lame excuses every season consolidate this season and go for it next season, when will us fans ever learn.


4.) 09 Aug 2016 13:36:45
Rumours are saying Jagielka coming the other way, that's the 34 year old defender who was injured all of last season!

We have Pinnear on trial and other rumours are we scouted Naismith who was shocking at Norwich and could not get into the first team at Everton. Even if he did well against Blackburn that's bloody championship level not Premier League. He'd be another Danny Graham!

Club in disarray and I am contemplating asking for a refund on the 4 season tickets I have for me and my kids!


5.) 09 Aug 2016 16:40:05
Like a lot of fans can't belive what we are doing kone off after 6 mths can't blame the big man for juming ship must think not worth sticking around for a season to end up like the mags well here we go again.


6.) 09 Aug 2016 19:52:50
I Think Moyes will be finished with the supporters if he sells Kone for a paltry £18 MILLION? . ridiculous fee considering the amount of money we've spent on dross and the going rate in the premier league transfer average at the moment? he should be valued at double that and if we are to sell our best players then surely that will mean another season of struggle! paticullay when we are short of players to start with! again the supporters have been shafted by a chairmen whose NOT interested in the club! the club and Moyes in paticulaer should come out and say that he isn't for sale at any price? if not then Moyes doesn't know who our best players are and that is worrying!


7.) 09 Aug 2016 23:37:14
Im worried by the Links to Moyes prospective targets! Jaknelka,2 rookie Manchester United players? . £8 million for Naissmith a 29 year old who never set the premiership alight last season! What is Moyes on? . and the possible Kone sale? . whos next Kasri, Kirkoff or even Defoe? . he's dismantling the solid core of the team Big Sam built and kept us up last season! unbelievable is an understatement!


8.) 10 Aug 2016 09:28:17
After reading other reports I think the Kone rumours is his agent trying to get a better contract for him with us (Fingers crossed. Jagielka can stay at Everton as well!

I am also hopeful that the Naismith rumour is just lazy journalism as he would be an expensive Danny Graham. I couldn't believe what Norwich paid for him last January and he was then slated by all of their fans. Again, everything crossed this is just lazy journalism!

The Manchester United duo I would take though. Better than what we have, trained at Man Utd, young, and under Moyes who already knows them they could develop into good players. For the relatively small amount of money in the current climate they are worth a risk.


 

 

13 Oct 2015 12:34:33
Ok Then

I have seen and been part of a couple of posts (one has now been deleted) where Ed 002 has taken offence to us the fans (in his words) being disrespectful to the club and players.

From me personally my posts have been constructive and my own opinions rather than outright 'slagging off' the club and players.

We all know that our squad is oversized with players who have not cut the premier league grade. Our policy of overpaying slightly means that other clubs won't match the wages and therefore these players don't want to leave. We are therefore in the dreaded never ending circle where we can't revamp the squad properly without making a massive financial loss.

Coupled with this, the players who are of sufficient premier league stature, are very low on confidence so performance levels have dropped. Again, the never ending circle effect where we need to win a few matches, keeping clean sheets and our strikers scoring goals.

We also have, as per my previous posts, a core of longer serving players who may or may not be manipulating the squad from within.

I therefore just want to ask Ed 002 what his genuine thoughts are on the quality of our first team squad and how many of our last starting line up would he keep and how may he would transfer list and try to move on from the club? Also, how many players not in the starting line up would he promote to play?

GNSAFC

{Ed002's Note - There are some very good and very committed players in the squad but it needs work - and there are players who need to show how good they can be (Jordi Gomez is a very good player who needs to sort himself out). Again M'Vila can do a lot for the club. But the defence still needs work - Coates was a poor buy, Brown's time has come, Jones has not impressed that much, Matthews won't set the world alight. If Kaboul can stay clear of these knee injuries and settle in the team he will be a very good addition. Yedlin is well thought of at home - but it is too early to tell if he has a future in the EPL. And the strikers are not working out - I think Defoe would probably be best coming on from the bench once another striker comes in. Graham is completely unconvincing and doesn't get the goal. Borini runs hot and cold but again doesn't get the goals. Fletcher works hard and is probably the pick of the bunch right now. The club need to look for a proven striker in January and perhaps an additional central defender. I imagine the manager will look to Kevin Nolan to help out in midfield. Priority will be to stay up.}


1.) 15 Oct 2015 14:51:44
Mainly fair assessment there Ed.

I agree Jones is what I would call a 'Plodder' Nothing bad but nothing great. He is however better than PVA at this time so he would start LB for me unless they promote young Robson from the U21's.

Yedlin has good attacking attributes but as you state time will tell if he can defend as well.

Brown was a strange contract renewal. If he isn't in line to start any matches we could have saved money there. I can however see that we had not back up so he was needed in case of injuries.

I agree about Coates simply not being good enough and also about Kaboul. He has been criticised but he was left open massively back lack of cover from PVA and the DCM's in front.

Gomez for me is too slow all round. He has had too many bad games for me where he can not pass, slows the counter attack pace down, can't tackle and so on so he fits into the Coates bracket for me.

Graham just isn't good enough. Good work ethic but quality and talent simply isn't there. Borini has another great work ethic but needs to play in the same position and same formation every week to score goals. Fletcher has confidence at the minute so could come good. Defoe is like Borini where he needs the right formation to work for him.

Me personally would not like Nolan here, too old and not being kept by West Ham tells you everything you need to know.

LB, CB and quality Striker needed in Jan and I would maybe recall Pickford in goal until Costel can learn to kick, distribute the ball faster and start coming off his line again to catch crosses and corners.

I do not think we are far off winning games. If we can sort out the defence I think we will score goals and confidence is everything!


2.) 17 Oct 2015 02:24:35
The youth situation is getting worse we are willing to loan out Watmore with a year left on his contract and well be giving him away for nothing the same with Pickford! why can't this club recognize we can't go on ignoring the youth talent at this club and it looks as if Big Sam is another one doing the same! . we never learn from our mistakes at this club! if the likes of Spurs and Manchester United recognize Pickford as a future England goalkeeper why doesn't this club? another example of lack of vision and a blinkered approach to the young players!


 

 

11 Oct 2015 21:36:25
Fletcher 5 goals in 3 games. Maybe a bit confidence and a return to goalscoring form?

GNSAFC

1.) 12 Oct 2015 10:22:09
no offence mate and some of his goals were top draw but I think you or myself could score against gibraltar but like you said hopefully this will help restore his confidence or at least put him in the transfer window


2.) 12 Oct 2015 10:52:45
Couldn't agree more about the quality of the opposition last night but three goals either way, a decent finish against Poland, and a half decent against West Ham so hopefully it restarts the habit of scoring.

And even against poor opposition scoring will hopefully breed some confidence as well.

If he can put similar effort into the next few games like he did against West Ham then we might start to see the Fletcher of the first season he signed.

Plus he will be after a new contract as well so you never know!


 

 

09 Oct 2015 08:33:55
I'm slightly concerned now about the recruitment of our next manager. There are a few 'Ex' managers now coming out and eventually making comments that are worrying.

Roy Keane has basically said "If they left me alone and stopped interfering then I would probably still be manager" If it goes that far back then we really do have massive problems at high levels within the club.

Big Sam - Not for me personally but he will do a job and will probably keep us in the Premier League. Is he a long term solution, probably not, in which case he should be discarded as we need stability and a manager who will be at the club for at least 5 years.

Director of Football. There is nothing wrong with this model as long as there are strict lines in place stating who carries out what role. However, a lot of managers these days want to go back to the 'Old Fashioned' set up so we as a club might need to amend our current structure to attract the best candidate.

If I was Ellis Short I would pick up the phone to Sir Alex Ferguson and ask him to consult on restructuring the club to try and get the right infrastructure in place.

At this stage I have no idea who will make the nest appointment and I will, even if it is Big Sam, back them as I have done all previous.

Finally, as others have stated, whoever comes in needs to look at our U21 squad and start integrating them into the first team. Robson at LB, Gooch and Watmore are all pushing and should just be fully blooded.

GNSAFC

1.) 10 Oct 2015 10:38:22
i thought your post was spot on mate pity short didn't think like that but who are we mere fans who keep the club going


 

 

01 Sep 2014 23:32:57
Well that's it then until Jan. Some good signings overall. Personally think we needed one more defender and a 'fast / nippy' striker but Rodwell and Alvarez are pretty good statement signings. And before people quote loan for Alvarez this one at last has a mandatory option to buy at the end of the loan period!

So let's stop any negativity and get behind the team!

Haway the lads!

FTM

GNSAFC

{Ed024's Note - Not sure the mandatory option was included in the final deal. It was talked about in those terms but the final announcement didn't include that detail. Could just be the way it was reported but it could mean its just a standard 1 year loan - details will come out soon.}


1.) At last. someone talking a bit of sense.


 

 

 

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24 Aug 2016 10:24:14
OK . Yes we have lost the first two games but this is down to the long injury list (yet again) and the lack of transfer activity. Add into this Kaboul leaving for personal reasons and the club is in disarray once again.

The concerning aspect of this is the financial comments coming out. Moyes is stating we can not complete with other Premier League clubs budgets which must point to real issues behind the scenes with the clubs finances. It might not be her but I will point blame towards Margaret Byrne for this!

If you look at it from a matter of fact point of view we have lost the follwoing players from the wage bill: -

Adam Johnson
Steven Flethcher
Danny Graham
Wes Brown
Santiago Vergini
Sebatian Coates
Younes Kaboul
Yann M'Vila (Loan)
Deandre Yedlin (Loan)
Ola Toivonen (Loan)

There must be at least £250k per week there coming off the outgoing wage bill so why are we in such a mess?

I am no expert but I can only put this down to two factors. Firstly the structured payments for incoming players. Dick Advocaat commented that we are still paying for players who are not even at the club anymore so outgoings are massive. I actually think these structured deals are the reason we struggle to complete transfers as other clubs must offer more cash up front and shorter payment time frames.

The second factor, and this is based upon Moyes comments recently, is that we are not getting resale value on players leaving the club. Johnson, Fletcher and Graham are pushing £30m outlay and not a penny back incoming when they left the club. This type deficit would hit any club hard.

I can only hope that the bumper TV money is being used to clear some of this aged debt to get us back on a more stable financial platform but that could spell trouble for the club this season is we can't get a squad together to avoid relegation.

These are just my thoughts on why we are in such trouble at present and I could be well wide of the mark. However, I do think at least part of this is true and might explain why Moyes keeps mentioning young and resale when referring to incoming transfers.

GNSAFC

1.) 24 Aug 2016 16:11:48
You are spot on GNSAFC, Ellis may be a billionaire on paper but he does have a big bank debt that has to be paid up by this year otherwise more interest will be tacked on. The TV monies will help off set this to get the club back on track but the sacrifice is that we can't afford the big transfers that Moyes is alluding too. When you think off the outlay we put out for Fletcher, Johnson and Graham comes to nearly 30 million pounds and not a penny back and you still have to pay the bank back, had we of gone down I bet he would have sold the club. Our only hope is that Moyes can craft a team that will stay up again and next year we will have some money to move forward with.


2.) 26 Aug 2016 22:26:12
Well somethings not right at this club at board level? why is it that lesser clubs like Stoke Bournmouth Swansea etc etc can bid massive bids for players and we are AGAIN shopping at Poundland? history has shown if you don't invest you will be relegated!


 

 

19 Aug 2016 14:50:27
I had not been too concerned over the transfers thus far as I was hoping things were going on behind the scenes and by the end of the window everything would fall into place.

As of today though I am very concerned!

Kaboul to Watford for 'Personal Reasons' which are basically his wife won't move up North so he has to go back down South. That aside the minimal fee of £3-4m in today's market is nowhere near high enough. I can only think we are agreeing as he was on silly wages.

Kone is allegedly injured now as well so we have no first choice CB's for Sunday.

Kirchoff still not fit, Cattermole out for 6 weeks, Larsson out for 6 months, M'Vila not signed yet, Yedlin not resigned (In the area of £3m listed as other cluds bids for Yedlin so we should have had that deal tied up months ago)

Add into this Pinnear has just been signed up and Lescott is linked and we are in dire straits.

Every season you usually get a few new signings and think the squad is better and we have a chance. At this exact point of the transfer window we have a far worse squad and first team than we had at the end of last season. and the linked players are well passed their sell by date cast offs.

Scary scary times.

GNSAFC

 

 

24 Nov 2015 12:05:41
I commented before kick off that the team selection was a 8-0-2 set up and a very negative choice. This however was not a 'Snide' comment slagging it off. We have shipped on average 3 goals per away game so we had to do something to stop it. If a back 5 with 3 DCM's in front is what was required then so be it.

On top of this, as Gary Neville highlighted, even though we had less possession and territory, we still created the better chances.

Let's be honest though, our passing was atrocious as we struggled to find our own men when coming out from the back. This in turn put pressure on us with Palace coming straight back at us.

However, when we did get it right the system looked solid. Good cover defensively, fast counter attack breaks, and this was before Lens and Watmore came on. Once they were introduced we attacked at even greater speed.

In my opinion it's not perfect but it is getting the best out of the squad we have available, and who knows, with a bit on confidence we might turn the corner and start playing.

Finally, good to see Kaboul starting to look fit, confident and like the CB we hoped he would be!

GNSAFC

 

 

09 Sep 2015 12:30:42
Looking forward to Sunday and hoping the fans will get behind the team and the new signings. You never know which Spurs will turn up so hopefully it's their below average one!

My starting line up would be: -

GK - Costel
RD - Jones (Yedlin can't play)
CB - JOS
CB - Kaboul
LB - PVA

DCM - M'VIla
DCM - Rodwell

ALM - Borini
ACM - Toivnen
ARM - Lens

ST - Defoe

Subs

Vito, Brown, Coates, Catts, Larsson, Watmore, Fletcher

The starting line up I think will be close to being correct although possibly players in different positions to what I have listed.

Anyone have a different line up in mind?

GNSAFC

1.) 09 Sep 2015 22:01:01
That's pretty much how i'd line us up, hopefully we'll get a result, we do need a win to kick start our season.


2.) 11 Sep 2015 13:58:30
I just hope our back four turn up. Its a test of Dicks coaching skill now.


 

 

02 Sep 2015 11:44:27
Well that's it over now until January so we have our squad of players to work with.

My assessment is as follows: -

Negatives

The main negative is the lack of players leaving. This shows that they are poor quality players who are more than likely on higher wages than they deserve. Hopefully the Loan Window for the Championship will allow us to shift out Bridcutt, Buckley and so on to try and ease some of our finance issues.

The only other slight negative is the lack of another quality CB. I think Kaboul will come good once match fit and match sharp but Coates is too slow and JOS not quote at the highest level anymore.

Positives

The signings we have made Lens and M'Vila in particular, look to be the next level of quality above the current squad so have improved our team as opposed to stagnating.

Borini will always give 100% so I also see him returning as a positive. He again is better then the incumbent players so again improves us.

We also need to look at the fact that we have scored 6 in 4 where as last season we could not score 2 in 4!

Time to get behind the team now and hopefully watch us move up the table.

Haway The Lads!

GNSAFC

 

 

 

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10 Aug 2016 09:28:17
After reading other reports I think the Kone rumours is his agent trying to get a better contract for him with us (Fingers crossed. Jagielka can stay at Everton as well!

I am also hopeful that the Naismith rumour is just lazy journalism as he would be an expensive Danny Graham. I couldn't believe what Norwich paid for him last January and he was then slated by all of their fans. Again, everything crossed this is just lazy journalism!

The Manchester United duo I would take though. Better than what we have, trained at Man Utd, young, and under Moyes who already knows them they could develop into good players. For the relatively small amount of money in the current climate they are worth a risk.

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09 Aug 2016 13:36:45
Rumours are saying Jagielka coming the other way, that's the 34 year old defender who was injured all of last season!

We have Pinnear on trial and other rumours are we scouted Naismith who was shocking at Norwich and could not get into the first team at Everton. Even if he did well against Blackburn that's bloody championship level not Premier League. He'd be another Danny Graham!

Club in disarray and I am contemplating asking for a refund on the 4 season tickets I have for me and my kids!

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09 Aug 2016 10:28:17
I don't blame Short as he has put copious amounts of money into the club. Yes he made mistakes but that was his lack of football knowledge but he is trying to stabilise the club.

My concern now is the club even considering selling Kone to Everton. I know 200% + profit in six months is great but he is tried and tested and has bought into the club. If they sell him it will be a total disgrace!

There is no one at Everton I would take to replace him either so players coming the other way do not excite me either.

4 days to go and still only one signing . Why do we struggle to get deals over the line!

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15 Oct 2015 14:51:44
Mainly fair assessment there Ed.

I agree Jones is what I would call a 'Plodder' Nothing bad but nothing great. He is however better than PVA at this time so he would start LB for me unless they promote young Robson from the U21's.

Yedlin has good attacking attributes but as you state time will tell if he can defend as well.

Brown was a strange contract renewal. If he isn't in line to start any matches we could have saved money there. I can however see that we had not back up so he was needed in case of injuries.

I agree about Coates simply not being good enough and also about Kaboul. He has been criticised but he was left open massively back lack of cover from PVA and the DCM's in front.

Gomez for me is too slow all round. He has had too many bad games for me where he can not pass, slows the counter attack pace down, can't tackle and so on so he fits into the Coates bracket for me.

Graham just isn't good enough. Good work ethic but quality and talent simply isn't there. Borini has another great work ethic but needs to play in the same position and same formation every week to score goals. Fletcher has confidence at the minute so could come good. Defoe is like Borini where he needs the right formation to work for him.

Me personally would not like Nolan here, too old and not being kept by West Ham tells you everything you need to know.

LB, CB and quality Striker needed in Jan and I would maybe recall Pickford in goal until Costel can learn to kick, distribute the ball faster and start coming off his line again to catch crosses and corners.

I do not think we are far off winning games. If we can sort out the defence I think we will score goals and confidence is everything!

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12 Oct 2015 10:52:45
Couldn't agree more about the quality of the opposition last night but three goals either way, a decent finish against Poland, and a half decent against West Ham so hopefully it restarts the habit of scoring.

And even against poor opposition scoring will hopefully breed some confidence as well.

If he can put similar effort into the next few games like he did against West Ham then we might start to see the Fletcher of the first season he signed.

Plus he will be after a new contract as well so you never know!

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25 Aug 2016 10:28:02
Ed, I think we need to judge on performances for us rather than previous clubs. Look at the players we have signed who performed well at other clubs but were rubbish here and vice versa.

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24 Aug 2016 09:19:00
Nope not a chance.

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24 Aug 2016 09:19:00
Nope not a chance.

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27 Oct 2015 08:53:35
Lets be honest, we were outplayed, even when they had 10 men!

The first half you could see that the team had been sent out to play defensive and neutralise their attacks. We basically went out to keep a clean sheet. I can only assume that by sitting back for 65/70 mins Sam thought we could then try and attack after they had used up their ideas and energy. Obviously the sending off and penalty stopped that.

There were more positives though than negatives. Costel in the 2nd half seemed to regain some confidence and two of his saves were excellent. The clean sheet is our first of the season so regardless of who it was against it allowed the opportunity to win. We scored from a corner (shock horror) and Fletcher seems to be confident again. Not only for his goal but his overall work rate was good (almost like he's playing for a new contract) and he led the lien very well.

M'Vila is simply a quality footballer. I seriously hope we move up the table and sign him permanently at the end of his loan.

Yes Lens was quiet, Johnson (innocent until proven guilty I know but I will not chant his name just yet) got better in the second half as he became more confident, and Defoe looked like he had a point to prove when he came on.

Yedlin looks to be growing into the RB role and Jones at LB instead of PVA has stabilized the defence.

It wasn't perfect but for one game we actually got the referee calls and breaks which we haven't had at all for the previous 9 matches!

The team as a whole seem to have a better togetherness than the Skunks so even though we might lack some quality at least they play for each other!

Let's see how we do against Everton and hopefully the progress will continue.

GNSAFC

 

 

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12 Oct 2015 12:00:37
Slightly blinkered view there Ed . What were your views then Ed on PDC who highlighted the 'Drink' culture, the poor diet, low fitness of some players so the 'Senior' players went above him to Byrne and off he was sent?

Me personally, he might not have had the right man management to deal with it but it didn't take him long to identify the route of the issues at the club.

You then have players like Roberge, Mavrias etc who will never make the grade but instead of terminating contracts by mutual consent and moving on they stay on the books taking money. Ok this might not all be their fault but between them and the club surely this could have been sorted.

You then have poor quality players signed under Poyets remit which, while 'Deadwood' is possibly not the most respectful term to describe them, 'Unwanted' and 'Transfer Listed' would certainly fit the correct criteria.

For parity I have 4 season tickets for myself and my kids and I go and support the club no matter what the results have been. I never boo our players regardless of the performance as this is not productive in any way and will not motivate the players to perform any better.

I also accept that sometimes you just get beat by a better team but as long as the effort and commitment is shown you can live with this. Sometimes this effort just isn't shown so players who are lacking confidence (and possibly ability in some cases) stand out a mile and get the crowds backs up. That would be the crowd who have spent their own money to go and what them!

I agree with you that the club is trying to move forward and the players, on a whole, do try to get a result. You can't however criticise the fans when they have justified reasons for their comments, only unjustified ones!

GNSAFC

{Ed002's Note - It is not blinkered and nothing to do with anything PdC has said - it is simply disrespectful.}