Sunderland Rumours Archive June 15 2013

15 Jun 2013 22:08:08
For the departing Migs and Sess
I would like us to target

GK: Kevin Trapp (22) from Frankfurt, he's had an excellent season and would cost around 6m-7m

LW: Adem Ljajić (21) from Fiorentina, again had a brilliant season, he can cross, pass, dribble, shoot outside the box and is a great chance creator, there is a little interest from Chelsea but he won't get into the first team, he would cost around 11m

Ed are we interested and what's the chances {Ed024's Note - just a fans opinion}

15 Jun 2013 20:58:22
Been watching the Brazil v Japan game and Honda is great player!

You might say we have no chance with him but there's no harm in trying
AND HE'S A FREE AGENT

He's not a free agent until january.

Agree but I reckon 100k plus a week

20k-25k a week

15 Jun 2013 20:16:39
Heard that we are in talks with AS saint ettienne over the possibility of signing Aubemeyang and Guilavougi

Anyone know if this is true

Where did you here this because I can't find a thing that we are in talks with them

Yes for guilavogui but not aubameyang

A mate who's dad has something to do with the club

I didn't know if he was bullsh*tting me or not

15 Jun 2013 19:19:31
Liverpool to sign Migs for 9.5 mill. Deal will be confirmed tomorrow. PDC to add this to transfer pot and try to secure the signings of Bas Dost, Fraser Foster, Alfred Duncan and Rossina.

People might disagree with me here but if we're prepared to sell our star players in Migs and Sess, we need to get better players than Rosina etc, other wise we are not showing any ambition and not becoming a better club {Ed024's Note - Sess wasn't anywhere near one of our best players for large parts of last season - a couple of goals before he got himself suspended doesnt paper over the cracks}

No but it does show what he could be like under Di Canio

Agree with the ED on Sess! he's too inconsistant and if we got £10 million for him I think that would be good buisness! {Ed024's Note - Not sure if we'll get that much.}

OK ed how much do you think Sess would sell for? {Ed024's Note - I'd say closer to £6M - he is 29 so prob has 2 top years left in him, no real sell on value when he's 31.}

Think the world of Sess!. especially after his class goal at Wongaworld, but if he wants away, and we get a decent fee, 8mil maybe. Then he can be replaced with a younger player with a better goal scoring record. Sess just didn't score enough for me.

15 Jun 2013 17:13:23
Looks like £8 million for Mignolet. Not as much as the £10 million hoped for. £2 million now, £6 million over 3 years. Fairly typical deal construct but I understand Sunderland insisted on a pay-on clause of 12. 5 % as well {Ed024's Note - £2M now and £6M over 3 years - why would Sunderland accept that ?}

Dont be so daft like that's going to happen marra

I agree with ED PDC wants the money now to buy new players

7SAFC7

6. 5 rising to 10 on appearances why won't you listen

Ed - that's how most transfers are conducted. Remember the Bent deal?. most of the money went to Spurs from Villa because Sunderland hadnt finished paying for him. Because Sunderland were paying Spurs over a period of years. {Ed024's Note - There's no way Sunderland would take the money over 3 years - if the worst happens what good is getting half the money when your in the Championship, Short is not daft.}

Ed - it's how transfers are conducted. This isn't Champ Manager.
Don't forget: when Sunderland buy a player, the same happens.
All clubs do the same thing {Ed024's Note - I whole heartedly disagree - clubs could go bust waiting for the cash!!!!}

My take on this is why sell him at all. When you get a top class keeper, hang on to him, it would cost a fortune to replace him. No amount of money can buy keepers like Mig, its like selling the crown jewels. None of the top prem teams would sell their biggest asset, so I don't care who comes knocking, I thought the idea was to build. Chris-s. {Ed024's Note - What do you do if the player wants to go ?}

More like £5 million now another £4 million on credit!

I've never heard anything so stupid in my life than paying for a player over 3 years. If the fee is 10mil they will pay 10mill up front and it might rise if there's an appearance clause. Where once he plays 40 games for Liverpool we get another 2mill which would mean we have been payed 12mil. We did this with bent we got 18mil upfront and once he played so many games we got another 4mil. No club in there right mind would sell a player for 10mil and say give us 3.3mil a year.

If you really want to know clubs take bank loans to pay for players Liverpool will pay 10mil upfront to us. They then lend 10mil off the bank and pay it off over time so the outlay is small and then settle the debt when they sell the player. That's why clubs who buy players for over the odds prices end up in debt as when they sell the player they don't have enough from the sale to settle the debt so are still paying for a player they don't even have anymore. That's why Sunderland want to buy cheap young players and sell them for profit so your not actually spending any money and are making profit which is what all the fair play rules are about. Rant over

Another loan from Wonga then lol!

15 Jun 2013 12:26:54
If Mignolet leaves I think we should go for Lazios goalie Federico Marchertti (29), he is a fantastic keeper and will cost around 10m
He is better than Mignolet, and I think we should go for him

Good luck to migs if he goes we have westwood who is a great replacement for migs

I'm sceptical that there's a keeper in world football better than migs that I haven't heard of

The one on 1st post

He is brilliant

Well lads already know the next goal keeper he is kasper schmeichel don't laugh it is 4 mil

Come on MIGS is a good keeper but NEVER world class. he's still suspect at crosses . there's are keepers as good for half that price! be realistic!

I doubt PDC will sell one keeper for £10 million and buy another for the same price?. rubbish!.

Would anyone on here swap MIGS with Henderson?

If he does go then PDC should go to Germany for either

marc-andre ter stegen - gladbach
bernd leno - leverkusen
kevin trapp - frankfurt

Rene Adler from Hamburger SV

In wolsingham a few days ago was Jim Montgomery. Had a few pics with him and then started talking about football and he says migs looks certain to leave. If he's right, I think Westwood is a good replacement and would rather see MIGs at arsenal than Liverpool. Arsene Wenger would do a much better job than Rodgers IMO.

What about Mitch Langerak Aussie keeper back up at Dortmund? Massive wraps on him {Ed024's Note - He needs a few more games under his belt}

15 Jun 2013 11:31:15
Just a thought if we sell Ming what about Westwood as first choice and shwarzer on a free would be good competition not sure if he would come but surely worth a punt for a season or two

I was thinking along the lines of Schwarzer as they have just signed Stekelenburg so first team football isn't guaranteed for him there anymore. He'd get ahead of Westwood but I think if Migs leaves before pre-season games then give Westwood a chance to prove himself until the new league season starts.

We'll just go up the road and take Krul. He said he always wanted to play for a top team. So no problem there

15 Jun 2013 10:49:55
I know this might be a complete long shot and many people would call me deluded but I think we should go for Giampaolo Pazzini, he is a great all round striker but cannot get into the Milan team due to Balotelli
9m? {Ed024's Note - Good player but is he not out until Xmas with a cruitate ligament ??}

Or well,
Cassano?

15 Jun 2013 09:18:14
Reported by the Daily Mirror
Paolo Di Canio wants to buy 10 new players in a major shake-up at Sunderland.

The Wearside club's new director of football, former agent Roberto Di Fanti, is juggling a host of possible deals as Ellis Short bets everything on Di Canio getting it right.

Sunderland are ripping up the squad that almost got relegated last season and ready to make an increased offer for Inter Milan midfielder Alfred Duncan, after a £5million bid for the 20-year-old Ghanaian was turned down.

Others on the radar include Livorno striker Paulinho, Lazio right-back Luis Pedro Cavanda, and St Etienne midfielder Joshua Guilavogui.

Sunderland have already landed centre-backs Modibo Diakite (Lazio) and Valentin Roberge (Maritimo) and Basel midfielder Cabral on free transfers.

Di Canio's clear-out will include unsettled Stephane Sessegnon, who is available for £6million, and, reluctantly, keeper Simon Mignolet, who has a £9m price-tag and has been linked with Liverpool and Arsenal.

Obviously the new scout really rates duncan heres hoping