Sunderland Rumours Archive September 24 2013

24 Sep 2013 19:18:52
With people saying Gary Neville as manager, but I would rather have him as our no2 and a expirenced manager as our boss

Neville and bally seems a pretty good partnership

24 Sep 2013 10:55:28
Sunderland should go for Vincenzo Montella an excellent up and coming manager if they want to stick with the Italian methods.

What do you think Ed!

{Ed024's Note - I'd prefer an English manager with EPL experience. It worries me that we seem to be considering Poyet who has no EPL management experience and RDM who was sacked after 6 months of his first EPL season.}

Pulis is the guy

Avram Grant maybe worth a shout

How about bring back Peter Reid for cover

Team for Tonight i'd play

Mannone, Roberge Oshea, Cuella, Coleback. Larsson, Karlsson, Cattermole , Cabral , Borini, Alitidore. 4-4-2 Subs Westwood, Johnson, Wicham, JI, kI Ba

Agree with that we need a british influence on this team whether its training players or even scouts. worrying thing is that we still have the same Italian scouts at the club the ones that brought us the rubbish we have! the whole team needs sorting from board level downwards. why is it that the loyal supporters have to put up with this year after year and 3 managers down the line we are at stage one again!. Ellis Short has to do some explaining to the supporters!

The worrying thing Ed is that few managers what to come here!.

The Big Question for me is WHY is DI Fanti and Angelini still at the club!?

Seen klinsmanns name around the betting, would love him but has very little club experience but he's done well with both germany and usa, could be worth a punt

24 Sep 2013 08:02:37
Apparently Zola & Ince are in the running

Think Zola maybe worth a punt not sure about nice, fair do's he's doing ok at blpool but he didn't do well at bburn, the daily mirror doesn't shed us in a very good light making us an unattractive place from the outside looking in.

The likelihood is that you are going down.

Guess what happens when you get relegated and you want to shift out all those players? Do you think any other clubs are going to offer any of your players a better deal to leave you, especially after they got you relegated? That means players hanging on for their paychecks which you cannot shift, that means you cannot bring in fresh faces and the payroll is already full. Most of your players are all on new contracts too, meaning most of them are with you for the next 3/4 years, minimum.

Wigan were lucky in that they had some young players coming through but your situation is much different, the side you have assembled is a mid-table championship side, you will have to use all your parachute payments to basically survive paying all the current players that nobody else will want.

The only asset you have that you may be able to sell is Fletcher, and believe me when I say this, with his injury record, age and your precarious position - you will likely have to take 6 million for him. Some of you may scoff at that, but, ask yourselves will Fletcher want to stay if you go down?

Can your club afford to do a QPR and bring in a top quality manager and buy yet another squad, again? Your owner isn't bad, be he is no Fernandes.

You are right on the brink of disaster here, if you stay up it will not only be another season in the Premier League, it could secure your long term future, but, if you go down; it could take as long as 5 years until you are ready to mount a challenge in the Championship.

If you are in the Championship for more than 2 years you will find it nearly impossible to get out. These parachute payments give relegated Premier League clubs an unfair edge to bounce back. This of course could have worked for you, but PDC went out and gambled everything on one roll of the dice.

Sorry but this is a poor effort at a post. All of our players will have relegation clauses in their contracts to reduce their wages by up to 40% if we were relegated.

If you couple that with the parachute payments then financial issues are not an issue providing you can gain promotion.

If you look at our deluded colleagues up the road they did not have these clauses, silly them, but still managed to offload 5 high earners and return back to the PL with considerable ease.

Please, if you are going to try and sound intelligent, have some knowledge behind your comments!

Seriously deluded Maggie or what. So you think everything is rosy at the 03 Arena. All we have done is sacked a manager, happens all the time son. You've just lost at home to the mighty Hull, your stuck with Pardwho for another 7 years, your stuck with Joke Kinnear for God knows how long, not to forget Ashley. You are the only club in the history of the Premier League to go a whole summer transfer window without buying a player, you wear Wonga on your shirts and you rent your ground. And we think we've got problems? Your bedsheets will be out soon enough bonny lad!

Bla bla bla bla bla bla - Mag alert! Coz all the above didn't happen at Sid James Park when they went down did it? What a load of tosh! Bing

Is the above long essay from the deluded one for real? we spent 19m and recouped 20m off sales, oh yes we will struggle for money honestly! haha what a tool you are, 5 games in yes we have had a bad start but also have had no luck so far, don't know what will happen the next 33 games and what manager we get but you can be damm sure we will fight to the end, do you mags really think you will avaoid the drop? you conceded 3 goals at home to hull, threw away a lead and haven't strengthened, my god as a word of advice really think before you make yourself a laughing stock with your ridiculous comments Mugpie!

Totally agree with this post. Common sense if you read it.

Worrying thing for Newcastle is the fact that Ashley has tied all their players on long term deals along with pardew so if they went down which is a chance they would be stuck with what they have.

''Sorry but this is a poor effort at a post. All of our players will have relegation clauses in their contracts to reduce their wages by up to 40% if we were relegated. ''

''will have'' Isn't do have!

I very much doubt a relegation threatened club could attract players by offering 40% pay cuts if the team gets relegated, especially as you were one of the favourites.

Feel free to prove me wrong.

And you can go on about the net spend not being very high on transfers, that is not the problem, the wage bill is.

The wage bill. for one pdc and fanti of most the high earners and replaced them with better players who were on low wages abroad and gave them a few thousand more which was well within our wage structure, 2nd give it a rest MUGPIE! worry about your own team and the way you are being mugged by your chairman, director of football and manager every season! HULL game proved you lot are awful!

Pardew will be the next Premiership manager for the chop!

The only reason the Mags are not getting smashed in the press after Hull battered them at home is we are taking all the headlines.