29 Jul 2014 14:04:09
Safc in negotiations over a striker! Don't get to exited it's max clayton from Crewe

1.) 29 Jul 2014
Good signing, but he seems a ways off from making starting XI. Seems there should be more pressing matters.

2.) 29 Jul 2014
So we didn't sign a top quality international champions league/league winning player…but it's ok, we're gunna sign a player from Crewe (who can't get a new contract)

{Ed001's Note - he was offered a new contract and turned it down! Clayton has been earmarked as one of the top young prospects in English football since he was about 13. His brother Harry got a contract purely to keep the lad happy at one point. If he gets the right coaching, you have a gem there. It is just pure ignorance on your part to whine about the signing.}

3.) 29 Jul 2014
How many fu*king future stars and gems and the next big thing ever turn out the way they expected
Take Mavrias for example,

And even if we have a FUTURE gem, that's not what we need, we aren't Man U, we need quality now! We have a relegation season staring us in the face

4.) 29 Jul 2014
29 Jul 2014 22:50:56
Is it ignorant or is it fans sick of hearing "it's one for the future"
Fans love seeing a young player come through into the 1st team but our track record is not good. In the last few seasons we've had a lot of young players realised, or if they do make it to the 1st team there sold on or let contracts run out. Wickham still not renewed his contract yet. So forgive us for not getting to exited

{Ed001's Note - it is ignorant to whine like it is some 40 year old coming for a big payday. No wonder no kids come through with the attitude you two are showing! They have no hope with whiners like you on their back before they even kick a ball for the team. No wonder English football is such a state with the attitude of the whiney, want it all now fans! You aren't a rich club, Sunderland are not even seen as a big club by players, you are also based in an area that is seen as unattractive to them. The only way the club will ever be able to progress is to target young, hungry players and give them a shot. I don't mean the way Wickham was 'given a shot' out of sheer desperation after being ignored for years while lazy drunken wasters like Fletcher keep them out of the team. I mean a real chance, like Raheem Sterling got at Liverpool or Luke Shaw at Southampton. Both had poor patches in their first season, but both clubs stood by them and it paid off, in different ways. It really annoys me this attitude towards youth footballers in the UK. No one has any patience with them! It seems everyone has forgotten how Ian Rush was so poor for Liverpool in his first 3 years that it lead to the removal of the scout who brought him to the club. He didn't end up so bad. There are umpteen examples similar to that, but still people don't want to bother because they would rather have some big name player who is ready now. This isn't the Martin O'Neill era, when coaching was non-existent and anyone under 35 was considered a kid, this is Poyet. Maybe you should all give him a chance to see if he is capable of bringing through some younger players?}

5.) 29 Jul 2014
29 Jul 2014 23:02:04
Though it has been Sunderland's young players that have being playing well in pre season. Mandron scoring again tonight.

6.) 29 Jul 2014
But we need players that can do it now!
Fair enough, give the kid a shot, but we need something better!

7.) 29 Jul 2014
I live near crewe and my mrs brother played with max clayton and nick Powell and clayton is talked about being better than nick powell so this could be a really good signing for the club

8.) 30 Jul 2014
The BPL gives youngsters way more of a chance than any other league in Europe. That's why you can mention names like Sterling and Rooney in your argument. And it's great to have investments for the future, I wish we gotten a couple at CB a few years ago. But how long is a "future star" going to stay with a club that gets relegated? How long before the board cashes in on him after he's been turned into a better player? As fans we want what's best for the club, but we also want entertaining football and the chance to say we're in the top flight. A future star is a gamble, we need a lock right now. There are less than 3 weeks left before the season starts and we're 5-7 players short of where we need to be. Sign the kid, but also get someone for the now.

9.) 30 Jul 2014
I'm not whining about the kids I'm unhappy at the way the young players are treated by our past managers and the board. As I said the fans love to see the young players come through. Yes it's happening at other clubs but not ours, that's why we're not getting excited over it.
I do believe in Gus and think given the chance he'll build a good squad of player but as all managers his hands are tied.
Wickham will probably leave for nothing or will have a good start to the season and get sold in January to the first cheque that gets waved in front of the boards noses.
Think it's ignorant of you to think it's the fans that make or break a player when it's managers and boards that make the decisions. What team do you support ed? Must be a so called big club that's has a great youth policy and you've been so happy with all there signings

{Ed001's Note - it is not ignorant, it is the truth that kids have to be taken out of teams because of the fans. It is why Sunderland got Borini on loan last season, because the Liverpool fans got on his back through no fault of his own. It is ridiculous that fans give them grief when they are kids. Kids are extremely inconsistent, it comes with a lack of experience. As for who I support, it is Liverpool, and we had our own problems in recent years with trying to clinch signings due to a lack of Champions League football.}

10.) 30 Jul 2014
Everyone loves as young, hungry player with potential- but I think the lads above are just stating our obvious lack of firepower, let just hope the board have one eye on the present aswell as the future.