Sunderland Banter Archive May 15 2013

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15 May 2013 16:44:49
Heard that Pdc will have a major overhaul with the squad and look to bring some players through the academy. Personally the only ones I would keep are mignolet, aj Sess Larson and colback

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Fletcher, O'Shea, N'Daiye
Gotta keep them!!

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Mignolet oshea rose pretty please ndiaye larsson johnson sessegnon colback for he's versatility fletch couldn't give a toss about the rest. We have a good spine of a team with the right players we could have a good squad.

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Are you saying that fletch couldn't give a toss about the team or are you including him in the group of players that you would keep, a bit of grammar wouldn't hurt, wouldn't have confused me if you put it in

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Have I missed something with ndiaye the lad saunters around the field his tackling is poor and his distribution is not conference style but a lot of fans rate him I just don't see anything good about him.

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Paolo has a huge job on his hands, yes some of our players have a bit of quality, but have a losing mentality, he touched on it in a recent interview. Some of them are a liability, some have no passion, some no skill, you name it, we have in abundance. Paolo has to sort it out, with his young fresh, no crap approach I think he will take us forward. This next season may just be the start of a new era, with a young manager with new ideas, Sunderland fans deserve a break, let's hope Paolo can make us happy again.

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Lets just take it steady
Remember O'Neill

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yes I did mean keep Fletcher obviously.

Your right though you are confused lol.

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Colback has impressed me under PDC, i'll admit I wanted him to be first out of the door earlier this season but he looks a different player lately, think we should put a double bid of 10m in for kone and maloney to test wigan's resolve. safc93

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Wigan have been relegated, they have lost loads of money, can't afford to keep their top players and they will be looking for a move away, we will be able to get a cut price {Ed001's Note - they lose money every year, Whelan has been funding them, next year will be the same.}

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15 May 2013 16:03:12
What does anyone think about connor Wickham apparently leaving in the summer

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Hope so although not given much of a chance he just doesn't look happy here been a waste of money.

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Done well for England
Why? Because he has confidence
Once he scores 2 or 3, he'll get into double figures

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I agree

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Why is everyone banging on about getting rid off wickam, the kid is young, has hardly had a run since he came here, he will come good and is a future no9 for england.

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As long as I have a hole in my rear end he will never be a future England no 9

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Done great for England

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15 May 2013 15:56:40
Please will people shut up about Cavani there is about as much chance of cavani coming to sunderland as there is of danny graham scoring against spurs

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It would be class if he scored against spurs lol

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Sunderland 3-0 Tottenham

Danny Graham hat-trick

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15 May 2013 14:32:39
I think you lot would have bounced back if you got relegated under Di Canio.

I cannot see much hope for you in the Premier League next season, staying up is a curse for you lot.

Di Canio does not have enough time, you will go down next season with Hull, guaranteed.

I rate Di Canio as a Manager, but your squad just is not good enough.

Who is going to take your players?

Who is going to want to sign for you?

You are in a heap of trouble having already overspent on the likes of Johnson and Graham.

It must be difficult to be a Sunderland fan, eh?

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Yeah fair enough if this was written by a man I man city chelsea fan but if this is from a mag i'm slightly confused by the hypocrite

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That post is the daftest ever to appear on our pages. Just to remind you, your club is in turmoil, most of you hate your owner and manager (cockney mafia)you have lost half your games, conceded nearly 70 goals, play terrible football, need I go on. Priceless coming from a barcode. Chris-s.

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Well unless you support someone higher up in the league than Liverpool. I don't fear which ever team you support as there is not a lot between the rest of the sides. we have had to play more than 3/4 of the season under a man with as much tactical know how as Newcastle's manager. under PDC we have improved a little which was enough to keep us up and now hopefully he will make a few changes to the squad. we will see a few players leave and a few come in hopefully not some of the overpaid crap signed by teams like qpr reading Newcastle and some of the other teams near the bottom ourselves included. I would be happy to see PDC sign some young hungry players from the lower leagues he has noted in his time at Swindon like lambert has done at villa. so i'm hoping that with PDC this is going to be the time for a top 10 finish.

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You can't judge PDC yet, he just hasn't had enough time. Yes I know beating newcastle 3-0 wasn't a fluke, but there were things in the game that went against newcastle and a bit for sunderland. By the end of next season will be the time to judge di canio. You will settle for 15th-11th place under di canio next season. Then after that if you achieve the mid table finish you can start to build. Di canio might just be a beginner's luck manager, so could pardew.

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We played newcastle off the park 3 nill mate lol so what does that say about your squad.

Im exited about next season.

The Paolo Di Canio revolution has begun.

Bet your not exited with pardew haha.

We will buy top players I guarantee.

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What revolution? This is what you were saying about o'neil

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O'Neill isn't Di canio, Oneills problem was he didn't have he's number 2 with him at sunderland and if he did he may have been a revolution.

Pdc is a young, passionate, hungry, ambitious, talented manager.
He will change everything at sunderland, the mentality, the coaching, training we will be the fittest team in the league, organisation. Professionalism.

We will be entertained and entertaining, will Newcastle under pardew lol.

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Isn't it what you lot said about the frenchies? Safc93

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Regardless of what O Neil had or didn't have you were still saying it as you were with Bruce. Your 4th bottom for a reason.

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Your at the bottom for a reason too your rubbish. With your french flops you should of kept Carroll and the chicken dancer etc.

14th of April 2013 the day sunderland showed newcastle what's to become a regular occurrence.

Were exited about next season under a top manager are you under pardew lol.

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'Exited' means your on your way out.

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Or maybe it was a typo with using a tablet.

EXCITED.

Happy now.

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15 May 2013 14:16:08
mag here in peace, both Sunderland and Newcastle should not have to rely on other teams to stay up, a major sort out at both clubs is needed, at Newcastle some more depth to the squad and one or two more shouters, at Sunderland more depth and someone who can put his foot on the ball, and again more shouters. Also we are hearing noise about budgets mainly from over optimistic fans from both clubs who think they are writing a list to Santa Claus. I expect comings and goings from both clubs and I reckon Newcastle will sign a minimum of 4 players and Sunderland a minimum of 6 players with each team bringing in at least one marquee signing. let's see how it goes and see you nest season

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Sensible post mate about right in every aspect at least we can look forward to the derbies next season the rivalry and the banter mate

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Sensible mag. I love this guy

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Just because a mag isn't doing your head in, doesn't mean you need to love him
Tolerate him at the most

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So true

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Well this is a banter page mate and as i'm in my 50s its nice to see some decent comments instead of we beat you 5-1 or 3-0 to us we should have 2 pages for banter one for sensible and one for under 11's for yourself

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15 May 2013 13:30:59
Makes the 3-0 victory over the mags and the the three points all the sweeter

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That's about the only highlight of a most disappointing season I for one am more than glad to see the back of this one. in mon we trusted and look were we nearly ended up

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15 May 2013 09:56:37
Which players from the relegated clubs do you think would be good signings? Kone, Maloney, Mccarty, Remy, Granero, Hoilett, Taarabt, Samba, Mcmanaman, Le Fondre? Anyone else?

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None, why do we need to sign players from teams who have just been relegated, they're were any good there teams wouldn't be in the position they are, no more journey men and no more buys from relegated clubs for Sunderland, need to buy 5 or 6 decent players one being a striker who can put the ball in the net, hopefully pdc knows what he's doing and he'll stay as far away frm the relegated teams as possible.

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Buying players from relegated teams got us in the mess we where in.

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Ok
If van Persie played for Wigan and they got relegated, does that mean he isn't a good player
One player can't make a huge difference in the team, can't fault a player if its the other players round him failing

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We did not buy Larsson or Vaughan. Gardner at £5m looks a comparative bargain alongside some of the other signings. Fletcher has been relatively disappointing but has not really been played in a formation that gives him much chance to show what he can do. There is nothing wrong with buying from relegated clubs in principle, but it depends who you buy. If we had signed Nzonzi, Hoilett, Olssen, and even Scott Dann we would have been able to put out a much better side than we have most weeks, stronger at the back and in midfield. The source of the players was not the problem, it was the fact that their best days seemed behind them. Neither Bruce nor O'Neill seemed to have an eye for an improving player nor were they able to see where reinforcements were most needed. A plan to organise and get the best out of the players signed might also have been helpful.

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Mate I totally agree
Can't judge players on other players failings

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Cant think of many players who have gone on to better things from sides that have been relegated our previous experience with these players I think we should leave them alone.

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What about Johnson- or Phil Jones and Victor Moses who both jumped just before their teams went down? Obviously, successful teams have more good players than relegated teams- but that does not mean there are not good players too. There have been times this season when it looked like Geoff Boycott's mother with her proverbial stick of rhubarb would have strengthened the side! But the key issue is that playrs generally want move to improve to play in better teams. When you finish 17th there are not many players in teams above you that would welcome a move. The consistently poor finishes over recent seasons are why we have ended up paying top ten wages to bottom five players- they need to be bribed with ridiculous wages to come here because they do not see it as advancing their own careers. there is a similar problem recruiting established overseas players, so while we need to improve the scouting network to identify good players earlier, we will be shopping among the strugglers until we demonstrate we can achieve a lot more on the pitch- no matter how much money Short is willing to lay out. Take one current example, while it must be a very long shot that Rooney will ever join that gang up the road, it is just credible. If we offered £50m for him and offered £10m a year he would still not come here. When you play like a bargain basement team, you have to shop in the bargain basement I'm afraid, so Paulo really needs to be uncovering some undiscovered talent if we are really going to move forward.

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14 May 2013 23:52:30
With Ellis stating he is prepared to give any amount of money Di Canio needs in the transfer market, I think we need to sign top, top quality players
•Abdoulay Konko/RB/Lazio/5m/ wants move to the premier league
•Joleon Lescott/CB/Man C/4m/isn't getting a game
•Rose/LB/Spurs/8m/we know how good he is
•Podolski/LW/arsenal/12m/wants a move away, not getting much of a chance but still gets bags of goals
•Milner or Sigurdsson/Man C or Spurs/8m/ spend most of their time on the subs bench
Gudietti/Man C/4.5m/never gets a game

Hats off to Mr Short, he has proved that he is committed to the club and will do anything to help make our club compete at the highest level and to become a success

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Charli austins the man, not quite podolski

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Would rather take Austin podolski been abysmal this season

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Don't you get it? Di canio only works wit h what he's got in front of him. He's the head coach so he can only recommend signings and sell players. You won't get top quality players. You're not even near the level of fulham. Players like Roberge are the sort of players you'll get, Players who've got experience (so aged 29-34) like your sharners etc. and players like austin who are a good shout for you. But players like podolski, sigurdsson, lescott, milner just aren't going to go to you, plus the clubs wouldn't even sell them, and bigger clubs would come in for them. just because you've got a new manager doesn't mean you're going to have a major clearout and spend 35m in the transfer window.

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Said the mag, aren't you going for Rooney, bit out your depth, but you never know, he might reject, Chelsea, arsenal, Munich and Real Madrid to go Newcastle, funniest thing iv herd all year

Ellis has stated he will give Di Canio whatever budget he needs to make us a good club, not 5m
25m+ (his words)

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I would be gutted if we went for players like podolski lescott overpaid primo donas coming to the end of their careers would rather look at the likes of Austin pope wells boujelouis etc young hungry lads who with a coach like PDC we could improve. if people actually thought about it we are not in a position like Chelsea arsenal Liverpool the 2 manchesters the only way forward is to scour the lower leagues and bring in players like I have mentioned along with some of our young players and nurture them bring them along and if they come good we need to keep hold of them don't sell them on at any cost. we need to build from the bottom and hopefully improve to the top. better than chucking millions down the drain on average players like the mags who are looking for a quick fix.

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Di canio has no say in transfers he can only recommend, he's head coach not manager

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