Sunderland Banter Archive September 01 2013

01 Sep 2013 20:18:48
LETS GET CATS BACK TO GET STUCK IN

Well it shuts all his haters up don't it and there's plenty of them too

We need him now more than ever

Do you mean get stuck in, get sent off, then play the rest of the game with 10 men?He is a liability, and I thought most fans wanted a midfielder who can play football, and not a player who runs around fouling people and hurting himself in the process.

Well, there's one of the haters

Di Canio has already told him to be careful going into tackles and that he will go ape sh*t on him if he does something stupid

Wouldn't be surprised if he roundhoused O'Sheas ar*e

We have had 4 players sent off in 10 games and 15 yellows since PDC reign started, so the fact that LC has been sent off 2 times and 16 yellow cards in last 41 games in last 2 seasons, hardly makes him a scapegoat and we have never been involved in relegation scrap when he was not injured and selected

And L Cattermoles last 2 red cards came against MK Dons and won and the 1 before was NUFC at final whistle and drew, the last four players sent off we lost 3 games and drew 1, bring back LC, sess and bards and see what happens at least they have proven experience, and before you start I have only mentioned bards because everyone slates colback and bards won supporters player of the yr playing LB, if not JC play bards. no point signing 11 and playing 3-4 and 2 clowns up front.

People think that once Catts gets on the pitch we will lose because he'll get sent off, but it is a proven fact that we have better results when he's got the team by the scruff of the neck

Before he got injured Cattermole seemed to calm down a lot and looked our best central midfielder. That's one thing I will credit O'neill, he seemed to help Cattermole to calm down a little.

01 Sep 2013 15:13:13
Read an interesting article today

We have only spent 6m!
When you see the Cardiffs, Southamptons, Norwich's etc they have spent over 30m!

If The Chairman and Paolo really want this to work, they are going to have to pull some big money out of the pocket
Around 10m each on a forward, centre mid and a defender
And get around 11m back from Sess, Ji, Larsson, and Vaughan

Because I for one don't wanna put this season down to chance

Its the wages that will be killing us. still got last seasons big earners and the new blood will not be on nothing

01 Sep 2013 10:28:53
Ok, where do I start?

Firstly, I was and still am full of optimism for this season. There is a revolution taking place and there will be ups and downs accordingly. However, and this is just my own opinion: -

PDC has appeared to tinker too much with the staring line up. I am hoping this is just until the window closes, injuries are gone and he can get a settled first team. If not we could be in big trouble this season.

We can't blame Westwood for the goals. The first close up deflection gave him no chance, the penalty was just too close to him and the third no keeper would save. I ask all those having ago to back off him and give him a chance.

JOS was no good when he left Man Utd or else he would not have been allowed to leave! Go with Diakite, Roberge and Brown as the three main centre halves.

Colback is competent at LB and did well with the cross for Fletcher but we need an out and out LB.

Seb and Vaughan are just not up to premier league CM standard. I watched Cabral at the Fulham game and he really looked the part so no idea why he has been dropped.

Wearside Jack showed glimpses but has not convinced me yet and AJ is close to but not quite at full performance levels yet. He also need to learn how to cross a ball! Ji should be sold as he is simply not up to PL standards and Whickham needs to be sent on loan again.

Up front Fletcher will be vital to us and hopefully when Jozy returns they can strike up a partnership. However, the issue here is lack of pace. We really need a 'Fast' goalscorer but these appear to be scarce.

Mavrias looks unfit, Moberg-Karlsson shows promise so should be given more game time and the other signings appear to be development only.

Ki, unable to get into the Swansea first team, may or may not be the answer to CM, we lack real pace in the team, PDC needs to get a settled team and stop tinkering every match.

Still optimistic but the concerns are starting to return and Fulham, Southampton and Palace should have been a minimum 5 points if not the full 9 and with our next 6 home matches we need to start playing football.

Finally, I admire PDC for being strict but MOTD actually got something right yesterday, he needs to stop criticising the players in public and stick to hammering them behind closed doors.

01 Sep 2013 09:57:22
The fact is we have better players than last season we just don't have a better team yet - but that will come, the more they play together.

Mignolet and Rose were always going to be hard to replace, (that said Colback has done well), but across the rest of the team we have better individuals.

Diakite is better than O shea, and Roberge is better than Cuellar, Giancherini is better on the left than Larsson or Vaughan. We now have three recognised defensive midfielders in Ki, Cabral and Cattermole. The improving Johnson is on the right and up front whether Sess stays or goes (Jury still out) Altidore is an improvement on Ji or Whickham and Fletcher is back.

The team still play like they don't know each other - to fix that you must have a settled team. 4-4-2


Westwood
Celustka Roberge Colback
Diakite

Ki or Cabral
Johnson Giacherin
???????

Altidore Fletcher

PDC has already said the creative midfield role is the missing component - he could play Sessegnon here, but that would put a lot of work on KI as Sess tends to move further forward. Larsson and Vaughan don't seem up to it, he could play Ki at the top of the diamond but that is not his usual role. I'd like to see Cabral pushed to the top of the diamond - the one game he played there - against Spurs in pre season he did well.

Maybe PDC has someone lined up for the attacking midfield spot. hope so.

One bad result (and it was a shocker), but there's a long way to go.

Now is not the time to judge whether you do have better players than last years, the end of the season will

{Ed024's Note - We have to try to judge now - if we judge at the end of the season it could be too late.}

Sorry ed your wrong, youve got to give players an opportunity to bed in. that's why it was always going to be a gamble but let's be honest, we would already have gone down if we didn't do it because O'neill was a complete joke.

{Ed024's Note - Absolutely agree, I'm all for players bedding in. But how long before we judge Ji isn't good enough ? If the rumours are right and Borini joins on loan then it looks like PDC may have made the same judgement.
I think your right we would have gone down without PDC, but I certainly don't want him to take all season letting players bed in.}

The team above has 5 players that did not even start against palace, and if you think Diakite and Roberge are better than wes brown, cuellar and oshea as centre halves, the fact one got dropped after one game and the other one is slower than all CH 's at club and has no premier experience, Ki was 5th choice at Swansea, and vaughan, gardiner, larsson are preferred to cabral, cattermole and sess have experience in premier and the players who have played instead are nowhere near them as proved so far, with altidore injured and oshea suspended, Sess must be kept at club as Ji and CW are not a option and SF will be only proven forward at club. if sess has loss of form what has the other 3 forwards used before SF done. If we use Roberge and Diakite against AFC we need LC in midfield as 4-5-1 is the only team we can play or we will be murdered and considering the next 7 games at home other than NUFC we should play 4-5-1 with LC, Sess, and SF 1st on team sheet, and if fit or not suspended Jos and WB in defence

01 Sep 2013 07:29:06
Now that the dust has settled on another inept performance we desperately need to know who is bringing the player's into the club is it the Dof buying them and tell di Canio to integrate them into the team or is di canio having the final say on them because it look's as though di canio doesn't rate some of them mannone before we bought him in he already had a reputation as a poor keeper and after his performance (or lack of it) in the cup game the other night won't be putting much pressure on the no 1 spot. The Two new centre half's neither of which I feel comfortable watching play diakite dives in to much selling himself and leaving us exposed and roberge though tidy in possession of the ball is to weak to play centre half in this league and is poor positionally and I feel di canio has the same reservations which Mean's that we are forced to continue playing o'shea who has absolutely no pace and is constantly giving away foul's in and around the box putting us under need less pressure and can we also please stop this passing back and forth across the back line needlessly as we neither have the player's who are comfortable enough on the ball to carry it out or fast enough to get back if we make a mistake as has been proven in the last two games it is also extremely boring to watch as you don't actually go anywhere with the ball and allow the opposition time to get back and regroup properly making it harder for us to brake them down. Now for centre midfield or lack of it we have cabral who paolo clearly does not rate as he has said publicly is not ready for the premier lge so why not give ba a chance instead of playing player's like Vaughan and gardner who are not physically up to the job and why have we loaned out n'diaye and are trying to force cattermole out of the club if that is the case with cabral all question's that need to be answered I just hope that ki is going to be a vast improvement on our current centre midfielder's and what about trying giaccherini more central meaning he will see more of the ball finally how long are we going to be subjected to these woefully inept performance's from ji who as I mentioned in my last post is not a number 10 and never will be I hope that the cowardly act he performed in front of goal yesterday will finally show di canio that he is not worth persisting with and we cash in on him before his either leave's for free at the end of the season or his value drop's because of these performance's. wickham is also not ready to lead the line on his own I know altidore was missing through injury and that fletcher is not upto full match fitness but if we are to cash in on sess that leave's us very short up top (just one last message to di canio it is no good coming over at the end of the game holding your hands up say is my fault I'm sorry sort out your problem's with cabral and sess and stop playing Vaughan and ji as if to prove a point to short and di Fanti that were still short in these position's)

01 Sep 2013 00:24:37
Ji Wong what a joke never mind selling him

Is it me or do I know sfa about football since coming to sunderland the managers and fans think that ji is a centre forward yet on all evidence he is not. then why is it that we send him on loan to Germany where their coach plays him in midfield from where he looked a different player including chipping in with 7 goals. after yesterdays performance I don't think we will see ji playing as a forward again maybe not even playing for the side again but as pdc keeps saying he is searching for a creative midfield player and obviously he see something in ji then why not give the lad a start in midfield he can't do any worse than those playing there at the moment. just a thought lads

If he can see something creative in ji why didn't he put him in midfield I nearly s*** when I saw him coming on yesterday
and to be honest we really looked uncomfortable all over the pitch but it is going to come