Sunderland Banter Archive August 31 2013

 

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31 Aug 2013 22:39:19
People are complaining that Ki is too defensive
Well, after today we needed him playing, Vaughan and Larsson are so sh*t attacking, passing and defending

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31 Aug 2013 22:24:55
We need at least four in before this window shuts or we are in trouble big style! A spine to the team that understands the premier league. We need a jagielka or dawson type centre half someone who puts there body on the line! We need another midfielder aswell as a playmaker to go with ki. And a smaller pacey forward to give us a different option! I can't believe he started ji again what is he thinkin? We missed out on vydra and hooper but need someone similar! Leroy fer went to norwich and he is exactly what we need! i'm not one to panic early normally but this season feels totally different!

Dave the mackem

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Another four. How many players do you need?

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{Ed024's Note - After today about another 9 ?}

We are the slowest team in the premiership.

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You can have any 9 from us' we are crap but they will still improve your lot



SOS NUFC

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Need another CB

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Sorry mag but we don't need your rabble, another awful performance and then ben arfa stunner, he will be gone by monday, he is only playing himself into the shop window

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31 Aug 2013 21:37:57
the samaritans say they are receiving record number of calls from people in the north east over the last couple of weeks first on Tyneside and now spreading to wearside.

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Very poor again today, but let's judge how good we are at the end of the year, not now until then let's get behind the lads, two players predominantly kept us up last year, MIGs and fletch, Westwood is a good shot stopper but can't get to the floor quickly enough, hence two goals today, whickham is far too slow in the box, ji is struggling physically, Vaughn is too small, and Larson is not a CM, let's hope we have some fast CM'S lined up

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For Gods sake give the team and the coach a chance. It is going to take time to correct the mess that was inherited, and it is now they need your support. So if you are a boo boy, clear off!

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31 Aug 2013 21:14:02
I'm as pissed off as the next person and don't know if Pdc Is the right man but I know knee jerk reactions have been getting us no where the problem with s'land fans is the moaners are the ones who get heard yes if we keep playing like that we'll be relegated but its 3 games ffs

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It says a lot when Swansea is below us, with West Brom just above us
To very good teams, let's judge 10 games in

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Pdc is not the right man for sunderland simple as that

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You ain't a supporter, your a prat. You don't deserve the time of day.

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{Ed024's Note - No one can make a judgement on PDC yet ....you can have an opinion but that's all it is.}

31 Aug 2013 20:55:36
Im a staunch supporter but the last 2 games have been absolute dross. In those 2 games we have not made one solid firm tackle. A toothless midfield, so slow at the back it is unbelievable and from what I have seen of Mavrias, he is no better than Mclean. No fight at all in the team. At least Cattermole would put a few hard tackles in and fight for the cause. As for the fittest team in the league, what a load of rubbish. Outplayed by MK Dons in what was the worst performance I have seen in my 38 years watching the lads. We are in a lot of trouble. The team is not playing any better than I have seen before. Don't tell me to give it time, they have had a full pre season together. Honestly really worried about this situation, and with the next few fixtures coming up I can see us with 1 point from 21pts available. Mac 49 Roker

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Your a disloyal ignorant pratt mate. 3 effin games. Please don't turn up to games, i'd rather sit with 20,000 loyal dedicated fans to a manager working hard to get this team right. And whatever anyone says, he's much more encouraging than the crap we've had before him.

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Are you seriously judging mavrias after one game he's not fully fit yet give him a chance man

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Please let me tell you that Sess on a bad day is twice the player of Whickam and ji on a bad day. I am 60 years old and I dare give Whickam a race over the first five yards WHICH IS THE MOST IMPORTANT.

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It's negative supporters like you that give Sunderland a bad name

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Well sell sess then and keep ji.

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31 Aug 2013 20:40:14
Questions after the Palace debacle? why play ji and ignore Karlsson again! why play Larsson instead of Carbral ? the manager needs to sort this out and quick otherwise well be in the bottom 3 for a long time. the only plus point was Fletcher!

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31 Aug 2013 20:27:14
so this is the PDC revolution?. please don't defend that abject display!. if we can't win against apoor Premiership side we have no chance this season. the only positive in this game was the goal Fletch scored but that's scant reward. I dare any true supporter to defend this. and guess what teams we have coming up?. another struggling season!

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Drop me your address mate and I will get the police to call around to make sure your alright i'm sure they can get you on suicide watch

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I'll defend you sack of s*** supporter, bet you didn't go to the game and get behind us. 3 f****** games in and can't even show a degree of patience. Bet your loving your chance to criticise. Still very much behind di canio.

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Geordie here in peace, for me the biggest problem Sunderland have is they have a team that are still getting to know each other, I know Sunderland fans I work with were worried about how all the signings would gel and how long would it take ( well at least we haven't got that trouble not with JFK doing the negotiations). I still think it will be another two or three games before you see the team come together, as for us, I wish our lot would spend some money, I still think we need 3 maybe 4 players, how many will we get? 1 probably, But much like our site you have whiners and whingers, both teams will stay up and both teams will be mid table. I will be surprised if either is lower than 13th, its teams like Fulham and their spoiling play that should go down, that have done that ever since Jol got there but they will stay up too
see you in October

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Even a Geordie is speaking sensibly (which is rare)

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Newcastle fan with some constructive banter instead of the children coming on here. I can understand where you are coming from as Newcastle have done a lot of dealings over the last couple of seasons and although a lot of fans are critical of the manager and the board they like sunderland are looking to the future. these signings like those Newcastle made take time to gel and I would think that pardew now knows his best 11, which at the moment di canio won't and it will take time for him to get this right and it will take patience from the fans which I know the majority understand. I can understand the genuine Newcastle fans who realise that they have a good starting 11 but are still thin and will struggle with any injuries or suspensions so they see the reason why the club still needs to strengthen. I think Newcastle will be ok this season and will be pushing for the top half, as for ourselves if Di canio gets the mix right I can see ourselves being close to Newcastle this season. As a realist I can see this being a long hard season for ourselves but in Di canio I trust and if he finds his right team I can see a bright future for the club. so as genuine sunderland fans let's get behind the manager and the team and stop being deluded and disillusioned lads.

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Sorry which club do you support? You start by saying Newcastle then finish by saying we (SAFC) will be close to Newcastle. If you are going to try and pretend at least have some intelligence to carry it off!

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You need to read the mags comment again. He clearly states as for us (newcastle) and then uses the term we. You need to go back to school mate.

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{Ed024's Note - I think he's referring to the post further down - when he starts 'Newcastle fan with some constructive banter instead of the children coming on here' he's not referring to himself he's referring to the post above.}

31 Aug 2013 20:24:30
Just seen Pdc after match interview looked so down but hey long season a good result against arsenal in 2 wks time and we'll be smiling again anywhere around 20 points at Christmas and we'll finish 12 th to 8 th keep the faith ftm hepcat 86

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Hope you are right.

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31 Aug 2013 20:23:46
Sunderland fans are blinded by john o'shea's trophy cabinet, 2 good things out of that game fletch is back and o'shea is suspended for 3 games

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The 3 games he is suspended is a blessing because he is awful

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I think the majority of the fans know o'shea is past his best mate but at the moment he is the only player in the back four with a wealth of premiership experience and he holds the line well and talks to the lads at the back. without this we will struggle and I fear for when we play arsenal as they will pull our defence all over the place not sure about browns injury but its at times like this we will need his experience.

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31 Aug 2013 20:17:09
Well that was a load of rubbish again, the midfield was a disgrace, Vaughan is championship level at best. If he's better than cabral then god help us. Diakite is just a toned up bramble. Not impressed with giaccherini at all he is a poor steed. Ji and wickham today showed that they must never wear a sunderland shirt ever again. Oshea was pathetic as well plays stupid long balls and gives away to many freekicks. The only positive was fletcher. What do you think ed, will you post this

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{Ed024's Note - I'd only disagree on Diakite, I thought he was strong in the air when Palace pumped balls forward, will need to get used to playing with Oshea or more likely Roberge - the defence didn't look like a unit - no surprise given all the changes but they need to develop an understanding and fast.}

Totally agree mate

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31 Aug 2013 20:07:56
Bring back migs!

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31 Aug 2013 20:01:55
Ellis Short, you have been the unsung hero in this but now, if you want your football club to survive, please send 30m on a forward and 2 class central Midfielders

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Dear mr short can u please sack pdc now as he is sh*t.

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Plastic Fan ^

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31 Aug 2013 20:01:14
after watching that we are in trouble already, no pace at all in the whole team predictable! boring! slow!we need to wake up and smell the coffee its going to be a long hard season (the game today was crying out for cattermole)before you all slate me we need him more now than before

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In PDC we trust ha ha 1 point from 3 winable games and you kept telling me Newcastle are in crisis. I would say the toon had a harder start and the are siting on 4 points. Newcastle will still struggle but so will the mackems. You have not improved from Bruce & O'neil

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{Ed024's Note - A harder start ?? - 2 out 3 games at home......No.}

We played city and one team that you have played. Who exactly have you played that was tricky? You should have more points and you all know it.

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{Ed024's Note - Of course we should have more points, but that's not the point you were trying to make.}

Southampton and palace away, fulham at home, and you have two home games harder start mag? your joking right

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It doesn't matter that you were away to Palace you should be beating them. We were never expecting to get anything from city (harder than palace) both played Fulham at home (we won you lost) and West Ham and Southampton are of a similar level.

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Come back at the end of the season mate you can't make conclusions after 3 games

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Agreed ^

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31 Aug 2013 19:59:07
O'Shea is a good leader, but a sh*te player

Di Canio, just stick him on the sidelines and let him lead from there

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31 Aug 2013 19:58:02
Still early days

Wow, we need a good Midfielder now,
An Aggressive, quick, strong, intelligent one who can pass, shoot and defend

One moment in today's game, where Vaughan gave the ball away and the man just walked past him with the ball, WALKED, and continued to walk to the other bloody side of the pitch, nobody going to tackle, all just stood and watched, iv never seen out like it

He was going so slow and it was still classed as a counter attack

Larsson, Vaughan, O'Shea and Ji will not be missed

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HOW MUCH WE GOT TO SPEND? we need a left back with pace we need someone who can pass a ball in the middle we need to stop the long ball.

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31 Aug 2013 19:49:32
Players need time t gel mmm. still playin the same umph we played under Mon and Bruce we might av all these new players but still same crap week in week out. very angry very frustrating. need a miracle

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31 Aug 2013 19:48:25
Come on Newcastle fans

Give us hell, we will not complain

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Guess who got first game on MOTD! Careful what you wish for.

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{Ed024's Note Goals = 1st on MOTD}

31 Aug 2013 19:46:46
It's going to be a long long season

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31 Aug 2013 19:46:31
worst player on pitch today westwood he flapped at the 1st goal dived 10 seconds after it went in, for the penalty it went straight under him everyone knows mignolet would have dealt with them no problem i'd say give mannone the chance but regardless of keeper choose choice this team still isn't good enough a lot needs to be done in these next final days of transfer window I'll support sunderland no matter what happens keep the faith!

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You can't blame the keeper for not saving the penalty.

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Yeah agree people need to stop kissing Westwoods arse just beacuse he's been loyal last season sitting on bench i'm all for having the best keeper in goal and as far as we know it could be mannone

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Id give mannone a chance against arsenal, just glad oshea is suspended for it

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31 Aug 2013 19:37:53
11 players in, only another 11 to go lol.

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31 Aug 2013 19:37:37
we need to splash the cash now on a top striker so mr short sort it out or aye john o'shea is a donky to slow his passes go to the other team gives away daft free kicks and its not because he lost us the game today he's like that every game

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Short isn't going to keep bank rolling the squad is he. No doubt he would like results from his investment. He has bought you 11 new players. Blame the manager or the messiah, which is it?

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31 Aug 2013 19:26:34
Shocking from Oshea. Shouldnt be making that mistake with his experience. However our defence had no protection all match. Our midfield was just nowhere to be seen

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31 Aug 2013 19:26:19
Absolutely abysmal. Thought we'd give a proper good account of ourselves today but we made Palace look like Champions. Pathetic defending for the first, shocking from O'Shea for the second and Ji was the worst player on the pitch. Only positive to take away really was that Fletcher came back. and scored. Yet I'm absolutely disgusted by that performance. Not good enough at all. A shocking run of games now which could leave us at the foot of the table and playing catch-up very soon. We needed momentum from this game but Palace's fans were top notch from the word 'go'.

3-1 Final score against Palace will not keep us up. Didn't even see the last goal as I came on here after the 4 minutes were added to moan.

Arsenal next. Woop di doo!
Very disappointed.

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{Ed024's Note - We need to see a response or it will be a very long season. Their third was a decent goal - at least we didn't give them it !}

31 Aug 2013 19:21:51
am lost for words

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31 Aug 2013 19:19:32
May I just say -

hahah

(Go on Ed, be a sport)

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{Ed024's Note - Difficult to argue - Palace had no points before the game for a reason - they are poor - but we made them look good. Cant give 2 goals to anyone in this league, only goal they created for themselves was the third.}

31 Aug 2013 19:18:20
No one likes losing but when you see the comedy defending for the first goal and the way we have chucked the game away with basic errors you have to wonder where we go next. Palace are one of the poorer sides in the league but we simply can't defend.

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{Ed024's Note - The only goal we didn't create for them was their third.}

Keystone cops spring to mind!.

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{Ed024's Note - Ki must be thanking his lucky stars he's only coming on loan}

The fans let down again, is their no end to this, just goes on season after season, its early days but for heavens sake we were playing Crystal Palace.

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{Ed024's Note - Next game - Roberge and Diakite together at the back, O Shea might be a leader but he's so slow. I'd have Cabral playing in front of defence to give them a bit of support, we seemed to have no one protecting the back four.}

We did try to tell you.

The signings you made were flimsy and a waste of money. Danny Graham looked sharp playing for Hull today, I bet N'Diaye would not have done any harm in the team either.

Managers with huge egos always come in to teams and do clear outs and bring in new players for sake of it, just so they can claim they have put their own stamp on a side.

Does Di Canio not realize that this is Premier League football, and he does not have experience of managing at this level, what made him think he could come in and reinvent the wheel? You need to learn to walk before you can run.

The smart thing to do instead of buying 11 players from anywhere and everywhere is get players that can play in this very tough league.

All those Newcastle players you were mocking were destroying Fulham today, and doing it in showboating style.


Sort it out eh, Newcastle are not going to have any fun trips to Sunderland next season if you get sent down. It is not looking good.

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{Ed024's Note - It's only one game but the signs weren't good.}

Destroying fulham? I heard you were terrible again, we destroyed fulham but got sucker punched, ben arfa played himself into the shop window after that goal, 35 games to go, I wouldn't gloat too much mag

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31 Aug 2013 19:14:47
JOHN O'SH!T

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Like most of the team far too slow this is the premiership.

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31 Aug 2013 19:14:34
Not a rumour but sick of watching same old s**** no matter who is manager it's always the same don't create can't defend set pieces and make stupid individual errors we get back in the game then get deeper and deeper until they score we have no pace no creativity in midfield and can't see where our next point is coming from with our upcoming fixtures I really fear for us what does everybody else think

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31 Aug 2013 19:09:02
Poor penalty, OShea looked so far off the pace. I hope PDC has a plan B or this could be a very long season. Palace are poor and we are making them look good.

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Good to see the PDC revolution gathering pace. Oh wait it's not. Time to worry when you are getting beat off 2 of the poorest teams in the division.

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31 Aug 2013 18:52:41
This is disgraceful, absolutly pathetic
A 9 year olds Sunday team is better


When on the super rare occasion we get the ball our touches either go straight towards defenders (Vaughan)
OR the ball rolls right under their foot (Diakite)

A incompetent bunch of ret*rds

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31 Aug 2013 18:45:11
We just don't win headers in the opponents half. No threat in the attacking third.

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31 Aug 2013 18:28:04
just watched the first half on sky and I don't think ji has touched the ball he really is bad with jozy injured we need flech more than ever poor game so far hope he brings flech on

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31 Aug 2013 18:25:10
He may have the fury, he may have brought the players in
But something is desperately missing, the players we have, this should not happen

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31 Aug 2013 18:24:29
Im sorry but after watchin that half of football i'm afraid that paolo has let his ego get in front of keeping our best players

Making john os'shea captain is a massive mistake the giy has got the worst distribution I have ever seen can't make passes even 5 yards away, how do you drop your captain?

Second the midfield is far too lightweight, larsson is absolutely atrociou ges supposed to be in the team for set pieces and has put 3 corners far too deep for anyone to even get near nevermind header, we need some presence I think we are missin cattermole massively.

Third point, after seein ji play on tuesday night how the hell he is getting a game today, it is plain to see that he has zero confidence, and whickham is too lightweight easily pushed off the ball for his size, in afraid that whickham also has a massive ego problem, he thinks he's made it because he's playin in the prem but for me he is simply not good enough.

On this showing we are desperate for a link between the midfield and striker, let's see what altidore and fletch can do before rushing in to buy a striker, we are also desperate for a full back and a centre half, this has been our problem for about 5 seasons now and the 3 managers that have been in have not rectified it, I fear that if we keep going we could well be bottom at christmas and by that time it could be too late, look what happened to qpr money can't buy you safety!

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31 Aug 2013 18:17:56
Wow, I hope PDC roundhouse kicks everyone in the face

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31 Aug 2013 17:47:05
Are you taking the almighty pi$$
Di Canio said 2 fu*king weeks ago that we needed to improve from set peices and same old same old, it's not on!
These countless goals, sloppy goals that we are conceding from set peices are ridiculous, they could be crucial to our season
Sort it out Paolo

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31 Aug 2013 17:43:57
The worst defending of a corner I have seen in a long time - we cannot defend corners - conceded 3 goals from corners already this season.

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Passing woeful, tackling clumsy, movement pathetic. Palace look what they are- brief visitors to the division. We look worse- slower, less determined and easily brushed off the ball. Lightweight in attack, panicked in defence. And despite Di Canio's famed regime, they look the fitter team too. Hard to be optimistic about this bunch of players.

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Vaughan hasn't passed forward so far, larsson is not a CM, why is Gardner not in the squad because celustka is having a shocker

7SAFC7

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31 Aug 2013 17:18:39
todays line up proves one thing we need another proven striker with fletch not quite there yet wickham not strong enough yet and ji?why he is still here I don't know where is altidore, so we got wickham and ji upfront, with one point on the board and I know its early days in season but I don't see goals from them 2

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Altidore has pulled his hamstring so we won't have him for a few weeks

7SAFC7

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Wickham deserves his chance, plus he is still young, must be patient
Ji, you can't write him off after one bad game, it isn't fair, if people continue to abuse him it doesn't make him a better player, it makes him worse, then the same people will continue to complain when it their own bloody fault, Di Canio has shown he has confidence that he will succeed and this will give him a huge boost today, so get behind the lad

Altidore has pulled out late with a hamstring injury

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Wickham does deserve a chance ji looks like a good fart could knock him over and without our main two imo were are not good enough which takes it bk to my post bout needing anothet striker. ps. terrible first half hope fletch comes on haway the lads

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31 Aug 2013 17:13:03
Huge risk playing Ji - I suppose its easier to play him in an away game but its a gamble.

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{Ed024's Note - I hope it surprised Holloway as much as it surprised me.}

One poor game isn't the end if the world
I can see him having a good game

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31 Aug 2013 17:02:35
That is how you beat Fulham.

Now, over to you lot against Palace.

Good luck chaps, you are going to need it. ;)

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This doesn't even need acknowledging

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But you did acknowledge it.

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{Ed024's Note - This getting silly}

31 Aug 2013 16:55:12
Looking at the team today we definately need another forward and 2 CM's

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31 Aug 2013 16:52:38
Why the fu*k is Ji starting

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31 Aug 2013 14:50:38
well I had to pinch myself today reading the report in the echo about our interest in buttner from man utd I said this lad should have been signed 6 t 8 weeks ago hopefully it will be a signing and not a loan as this lad has bags of potential will be a class signing get him in

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31 Aug 2013 11:08:40
so much for getting a british attacking centre mid Ki seung yueng is the complete opposite he's not British he's Japanese and he's a defensive midfielder?

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Still a very good playmaker

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If by Japanese you mean south Korean sure, either way he's played in the premiership and has some experience, in the face of not getting the player he wants he's at least a decent option for now.

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Ki was the third best passer of the ball in the prem last season, he had a score of 93% completion. & by the way he is South korean not Japanese.

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Just no pleasing some people is there! Bunch of moaners, just get to the games and support the team.

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