Sunderland Rumours Archive September 22 2013

 

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22 Sep 2013 21:14:21
PAOLO just been released now! The players need to hold their heads in shame - the guy said nothing I could disagree with - player power has gone mad! Bing

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There are two driving forces here an absent landlord and his female hit man who who was furious with the "fascist" stuff. Fact is its spineless panic. PDC is better out of it.

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Only one driving force, and that is he tried to change to much to soon, got what you's deserved.

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I feel sorry for the fella, I couldn't see him turning it around but the players have a massive part in this

Gotta get a new Sunderland top now
Had "Dirty Knees" on the back

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Good luck paolo

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Unbelievable!

I will be honest, I have been slating PDC on here, but that is my duty as a Newcastle fan.

Bold, bold move, but maybe the right one.

I am just curious if the results are to blame, or has there been a players revolt?

There is more to this one than meets the eye, you don't sack a manager 5 games in to a new season.

It will all come out soon.

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Disgraceful, Short and Byrne have no integrity. We will have to give the new guy our support whoever it is, but don't complain if he doesn't buy a house in the NE he might not have long enough for a purchase to go through.

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Ye couldn't be more right my Geordie friend today is a low in the name of sunderland football club

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Read the article on line from the daily mail! Paolo had a meeting with the players and the players turned on him after he singled certain players out. The players then told him they didn't like him and wouldn't play for him. quote from Daily

"Paolo Di Canio was sacked by Sunderland after an angry confrontation with some of his players proved the final straw for owner Ellis Short"

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What I've heard is the sacking was because of a bust up with 2 senior players after the West Brom debacle and if PDC has lost the players then perhaps its the right move. a Kamakasi manager!

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Where does this decision leave Ellis Short now?. perhaps he is out of his depth as a chairman?

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{Ed024's Note - I don't see it that way - extraordinary situation when the players turn on a manager - he had to act.}

Good luck to Kev Ball for Tuesday!. get behind him and the team!

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Sorry to see paulo go, despite a players revolt, I seem to think ball will be in charge for at least 1 prem game, despite what the bookies say, dare say he would be a good first team manager, full of local passion.
Perhaps even get reidy back?

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Point is if he has lost the dressing room then short had no other option. I for one would not be happy if my manager was putting me down in public it would take anyones confidence away. Yes it is only 5 games gone but at the end the day 1 point from 5 games is not good enough. If I was chairman my reaction would be the same. People saying player power gone mad, to get results players need to be happy and confident, pdc took that away with his managment style. So for me right decision, right time.

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Players in night clubs till the early hours, Lack of commitment in many ways pdc was right but he should have kept it in house. My guess is player power more than results lost him his job.

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Steve Maclaren and Peter Reid are being considered as managers until the end of the season.

PDC deserved to go

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Too many players who think there big time getting managers sacked, you wouldn't see it happenin at united and that's because they respect the badge, plus the press would vindicate them if they did it down there, the problem is we aren't a desirable side and never will be, the players have no respect for the badge, there here to pick up there paycheck and piss it all up the wall in a saturday night, as soon as some one comes in and tries to shake it up a little bit so that they might actually put a bit of effort in for the fans who pat good money and deserve to see some decent football for a change, because in my opinion its been pretty much horrific for best part of a decade now, the players ought to be ashamed of themselves I've got to say i'm not sorty he's gone because he wasnt the right man for the job but some of the blame has got to go to the players, not playin for someone so you get him sacked isn't hurting him its hurting the workin man who slaves all week just so he can watch his beloved team on a weekend and i'm sorry but that performance on saturday was simply not good enough, the lads should be ashamed of themselves and surely short has got to get rid of these perpatraitors who have stood up to have him removed aswell, i'm disgusted, rant over.

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Makes me think perhaps the players knew after the West Brom game he was on a sticky wicket so they wound him up and wanted him out!. I think things will come out about his management!

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Put Bally in charge for the rest of the season!

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Toon fan in peace. Agree with a lot of the comments above, he wasn't given even nearly enough time, football went mad long ago and it's us who suffer. I hope you get a decent man to cover, I look forward to our meetings and they're no fun if we're not both at full strength, good luck me mackem chums.

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Totally agree with the post about the players virtually engineering this, and I think we all have a good idea which ones will have been involved. I will not mention names but I hope they follow Paolo out of the club as soon as possible, they have taken the p**s out of our club for far to long.

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Newcastle fan in peace
First am shocked about PDC should have give him more time although I do see why he had to go if he was losing the dressing room (if that is true)
Second I have seen a post saying get Ball in till the end of the season for me that would be a bad choice it's far to early in the season to do that there is plenty of time to get a full time manager in to do the job
Good Luck the rest of the season (apart darby day of cause)
The premier league would suck without the best darby in the world

BAWToon

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On above post what's the chance of Pardew going?. will PDCS sacking increase the chance on him going?. you may have the situation that by derby day both our teams won't have a manager. now that would be a first!

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23 Sep 2013 14:55:42
From a football point of view, sacking a manager after only 13 games and having allowed him to bring in that many players over the summer is ludicrous.

However, there is clearly more to it than that. We can shout on about the dangers of player power and commitment (or lack thereof) all day long but you can't treat adults like school children, criticise them in public and expect them to still want to play for you.

That's not because the players are prima donnas or they don't care, it would be no different if my boss did the same to me.

The fact they get paid so much doesn't change what is right and what is wrong. You can't treat people like rubbish and expect to see results.

Sacking Di Canio isn't the problem, appointing him in the first place when everyone knew what he was like is the issue.

Regardless, he's gone. The big concern now is, who is going to replace him? We really don't need another failed manager on the merry go round (McLeish, McLaren etc) to continue the mediocrity.

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Maclaren would be perfect for the job at Sunderland. He hasn't really done anything wrong. Just mindless fans

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He did his job and kept us up, I'm sad to see him go as his passion was awesome, but his man management, tactics and player choices were poor, I'd of gave him 5 more games but if he lost the players then he had to go, also would like to make the point to my fellow mackem who said a week ago that he was talking to catts and johnson in a pub in yarm! sorry for doubting you mate about the players not backing PDC

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Yes Ed BUT questions have to be asked in the board room about his appointment as it was well known what he was like at Swindon and the way he treated their players!

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Spot on mate. You can't appoint a well known lunatic and then sack him for being a lunatic.

He'd should never have been given the job in the first place. He had very little football experience and a track record of being a nightmare to work with.

Not often I agree with Shearer but he was spot on MOTD when he said he doubted whether the club really did its research in the first place before giving him the job.

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22 Sep 2013 19:16:07
PDC to be sacked tomorrow. Good riddance I say.

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He, s gone now mt just had a fone call

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What happened to 'In PDC we trust'

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Pullis in the frame

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It's Di Matteo

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Ive read this from an Italian source and that Di Mateo has already been set up as his replacement. what I've heard is that the board were amazed by PDC s strange stand off with the fans at the end of the WBA game!

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He isn't going to be sacked tomorrow or any time soon, too much has been invested. Get over yourselves and get behind the lads, they need you.

Totali

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PULLIS? your joking! we will go down with boring football!

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What happened to he's a breath of fresh air and just what the club needed now it's good riddance and you don't know what your doing we're only 5 games in and he should be sacked have a word with yourself.

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Get a grip man. Give the man a chance

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Id back Di Matteo much more stable!. sacking PDC was the correct decision out of his depth crazy decisions and mad as a hatter!

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Shows how much I know.

Totali

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21 Sep 2013 23:55:05
This is rumour, not completely true

Paolo Di Canio has two LEAGUE games to sort out his act with Di Matteo waiting in the side lines

If this is true, say goodbye to PDC, Man U and Liverpool next
Feel sorry for the guy, at least he deserves is until Christmas

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Think he will be in charge against the no matter what happens but that could seal his fate depending on results until then

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Completely true? you got it from a paper, I'd give him 10 games

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I was not keen on his appointment.
However, there is no doubt that he kept us from relegation last season and I was prepared to give him a chance and still am.
If the stories in the papers are true and they will get rid of him unless there is a turn around in the next two games. I just wish they would pull the plug now. There is no chance of the next two games getting a result.

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Jeez mate the problem is our next two games are at home which is good but against liverpool and man utd which is bad! I still think give him another 5 games, 10 games in is not too late, if he did walk or sacked by then, then it gives a new manager 28 games to turn us around, People saying Di Matteo, would be a good manager for us but still have faith in PDC, all it takes is a good win to turn things around

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Im amazed by the loyalty of fans too this guy!. fair enough its only 5 games gone but we aren't just getting beaten by the odd goal we are being outplayed by the lower sides we should be beating!. i'd give him 10 games but I feel hell go before that or even walk!. we've sold our 2 best players and replaced them with rubbish that is the reality and it needs addressing. perhaps the Swindon fans were right?

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Yes he kept us from relegation but he's won only 2 games in 13 for this club!

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What was he doing staring at the crowd at West Brom?. is that normal behaviour oris it inciting the crowd!

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The main problem IMO is we are not scoring enough goals and the lack of not signing another striker has backfired on PDC!

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We have 4 strikers, Fletcher, Altidore, Wickham and Borini (Ji doesn't count). It ain't strikers that's the problem its the crap service they are getting from midfield. Johnson needs to start living up to his billing for sure.

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It is true we were not relegated last season, but there is huge doubt that it was Di Canio who kept us up. Two good results is his sum total to date.

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Can't to afford to wait 10 games. 28 games is not enough for a new manager, given the disruption to the squad. A new manager will want to bring in even more players in January.

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I don't believe everything I read in the papers and it is obvious that some of them have it in for him.
I stand by what I said before, he deserved a chance. I am borderline whether he has had his chance or not.
At the end of the day it doesn't matter what we think, it is what the board thinks that counts.
If Di Matteo has been lined up, why wasnt he appointed in the first place?

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Given that Ellis Short has backed Paolo to the hilt in the transfer market over the summer I don't see a sacking now is on the cards at all, he is pretty much committed. I also think Paolo is trying to do the right things, although probably trying to do too much too quickly. My point though is we must, absolutely must stay behind the team. The manager is going nowhere in the near term and we need points. We have to back them to the b*******.

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His behaviour at the end of Saturdays match was Bizarre to say the least!. why did he do that as he must have known it would infuriate the fans!

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Yes 4 strikers and ALL aren't good enough for the premier league. simple as that!

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