Sunderland Rumours Archive August 26 2014

26 Aug 2014 22:46:50
Abel Hernandez turned down a move to Benfica today apparently stating he wants a move to a different move. Is he still a possibility?

Meant to say "move to a different league".

He wants Newcastle

One Italian website claiming he's off to Hull! Same website says Athletico Madrid now joining Milan in the chase for Borini.

27 Aug 2014 13:43:27
So Sad that Hull can attract a player like Hernandez and we aren't in for him?

{Ed024's Note - Hernandez spent season last season in Serie B, Hull prioritised Rhodes above him. So, although a promising talent, not one to lose sleep over. At £10M I'd put that deal in the panic buy category. We do need a forward but not Abel Hernandez.}

The club put all their eggs in one basket with Borini. If we don't get him then anyone who comes in between now and Monday will be a panic buy.

{Ed024's Note - I think we need to forget about Borini....if he was coming, he'd be here.}

27 Aug 2014 15:51:05
If Borini does come here either permanently or on loan it will be interesting the fans reaction to him after all the hassle!

When Borini arrived last season it was on the premise that a successful season with Sunderland would undoubtedly lead him back into the Liverpool squad for the next season and no-one can deny he was successful at SAFC, HOWEVER Liverpool have moved on and he is as far away as ever from a regular first team place. With this in mind if he comes to Sunderland again will we see a moody so and so with a face like a smacked backside skulking around the Academy and Stadium and more importantly not putting the same amount of effort. Think of it another way. . . Chelsea, Roma, Swansea and Liverpool cannot all be wrong. I don't want the club to be "sloppy seconds" and we have seen enough players use us as a safe harbour without putting the effort in to last us all a lifetime.

26 Aug 2014 17:14:33
According to the bookies: We're favorites for Sinclair and Kalou. 9/1 for WelBECK and 10/1 for Richards.

Well we better hurry up as we need reinforcements as soon as possible. God only knows why we wait for the last week of the transfer window. When we end up with player nobody else wants and have to pay over the odds.

We were odds on for Micah Richards a few weeks ago. At various points over the summer we've also been favourites to get Ashley Williams, Curtis Davies, Steven Caulker, Jordan Mutch and Michael Dawson. Those didn't work out too well. Although to be fair we were odds on to get Rodwell, so I suppose one out of six isn't bad. Hopefully the twelfth player we're linked with will be Lionel Messi.

26 Aug 2014 21:11:41
Whatever happens between now and the end of the transfer window the way we have dealt with some of the transfers this summer has been a shambles!

27 Aug 2014 12:42:49
The offloading seems to have been reasonably well managed- with a couple more to go I hope- but retention and recruitment have both been poor. We lost most of the loans and out-of-contracts we wanted to keep- Alonso, Borini, Ki, Colback, possibly Bardsley- and while we did get a few early Bosmans (not any better than the players we lost) the key signings needed in defence, midfield and attack have not been made. While we are better organised than last year, Poyet did not get to develop his preferred style with the new players we hoped for, and though they are trying it is clear that some of our senior players are reaching the end of their Premier careers and do not move or think quickly enough to play the way he wants. But supporters expectations have obviously been depressed too as rumoured arrivals failed one after another to materialise, In fact the level of satisfaction many have shown at the very ordinary performance against a dreadful ManU demonstrate that many are already settling for the customary diet of crumbs.Unless a couple of important signings arrive before the weekend is over this will be another season of missed opportunities.

27 Aug 2014 13:49:19
Agree with you Brandon unless Gus has a few suprises up his sleeve in the next few days questions have to be asked!. and well then have to manage with a threadbare squad till Janurary . we certainly don't want to be bottom of the table again this Christmas!

27 Aug 2014 14:43:51
The players we let go were atrocious, colback was awful for 3 seasons,had half a good season, bardo at the best of time couldn't be arsed, craig gardner was awful, too slow for the prem and westwood was also a poor dodgy keeper, now we've replaced them with gomez, one of the best players wigan has had for a few seasons now, jones whos been a premier league starter at right back for the last 3 seasons, pantilmon who was eeeeasily better than joe hart but had to settle for 2nd fiddle most probably because of merchandising purposes, also brought in a player in rodwell who they were hailing as one of the best british youngsters to come through the ranks for yesrs. Jesus give the lads a chance for god sake I don't think we've done too bad in the market if you ask me!!

26 Aug 2014 16:25:15
My sauce told me Coates was in talks earlier in the month. See my post 5/8/14. He has been a target all along.

26 Aug 2014 16:40:34
This comes from a VERY reliable source. The Borini saga stands like this. LFC still owe us £17MIL from the Henderson/Mignolet deals. We asked for Borini n scrap £14MIL off the debt LFC said no they want the cash up front as they can't balance their books by agreeing to our deal. My opinion SAFC don't have the cash available to pay the fee upfront plus leaving finances available for other potential transfers. MY OPINION ONLY

26 Aug 2014 18:47:50
VERY few clubs pay cash up front!. its usually on the never never!. and in instalments!

26 Aug 2014 15:12:51
My mate in Manchester tells me there are strong rumours circulaiting that Sinclair will join on a season long loan. The rumour is due to the Borini deal finally being called off and should happen in the next 48 hours. Not sure he is the answer if it turns out to be correct.

26 Aug 2014 09:03:56
Rumour is we are close to getting Sebastian Coates (Liverpool defender + Uruguayan) on a season long loan which means Borini is not coming unless on a permanent deal because you can't have two loan deals from rivals. Also probably means (unless Borini has said he's not coming) that we are close to securing a move for a striker/winger.

Kalou? Welbeck? Anyone else?

I'd take anyone from the Kalou, Welbeck, Borini category, don't really want an average player brought in after all of this mess of trying to get Borini in

Yes, I'm guessing this means Borini isn't coming. He's been quoted as saying he would only consider a loan and I don't see Coates being bought with the risks over his knee so it's one or the other.

If Borini isn't coming I would like to see Welbeck but I can't see that happening, especially when he's said one of the reasons he's leaving MU is because he wants to play as an out and out striker and we can't offer that.

So who else? Kalou, I'm not convinced about him; I always thought he was an average player made to look good by those around him. Salah, maybe on loan? Sinclair, seems to have gone cold now. Not sure who else.

A £2m bid for Ben Arfa?

26 Aug 2014 12:18:02
Just heard that Borini will be happier with another LOAN move to us rather than a permanent switch but then he has said to be interested in a permanent switch to AC Milan, well I would just withdraw from him like we should of a while ago and let him sit on the bench at Liverpool cause in all fairness out of his 10 goals he scored for us 5 of them were penalties so he is not exactly a guaranteed goal scorer for us that's why we should use that 14 million on someone else who will get us goals. I would happily take Kalou or Welbeck if rumours are true about them, not long left though!

Great idea about Ben arfa. he would be a canny signing. I have no idea why the mags aren't playing him

26 Aug 2014 20:06:01
Billy apparently Pardew has the hump big style with HBA to the extent there is more chance of you and me together playing for Newcastle than Hatem.