Sunderland Rumours Archive July 06 2013

06 Jul 2013 20:32:18
Just wandering ed Do we still want scocco Excuse my spelling or is he staying? {Ed024's Note - He's on record as saying he wants to stay put so I think we have ended our interest.}

You spelled Scocco correct but got wondering wrong {Ed024's Note - I thought he must have been having a stroll when he was thinking about Scocco !!!}

06 Jul 2013 20:38:10
Premier League club Sunderland are ready to make an offer to Juventus for the services of winger Emanuele Giaccherini

What do people think about this?

Ive read he doesn't want to leave Italy and at 28 he has a 2 yr contract left so ill be suprised if he leaves to come here!

Top guy in Italy who deals with transfers has said this is the info so no smoke without fire I say

Di fantis dad is ellis shorts best mate and he's telling the bairn to keep the tickets sales up, basically we are bulk buying more mediocre players witha few young kids with potential. watched that video of training on echo etc and if anyone can make sense of it please explain, i'm 54 and an ex burnley and notts county player and all I see is divisions no teamwork {Ed024's Note - You cant follow a training session if you only see 2 minutes of it !!! Not sure about mediocre players - who would you like to see come in ?}

Being burnley and notts county on fifa don't count mate. If it does then i'm most successful manager in sunderlands history on football manager. all hail me.

Ed mate that was 2 mins highlights just like watching the whole of the proms aye its all windwood and no time to.

Not on fifa bonnie lad in the boots, 4 seasons and time in non league too when me mates at the pit and in the fire brigade earned more, before macdonalds and gameboys and gobby greggs addicts, shame on you and wtf is fifa, ed I would rather of looked at the coaching tactics and brought in quality in that dept I won't write off our present squad over last seasons debacle they are the same as us just human and as such subject to emotions etc

You only saw 2 mins of useless crap of players doing kick ups etc, this is good, if we do what Man C do and show what the team does in training sessions in detail, we'll get found out, that's a big part in the reason Man C lost the league last season, according to Alex Ferguson

06 Jul 2013 19:37:17
Sunderland are after Manchester United Midfeilder Anderson

Thou been sniffin glue marra?

No this is true, I keep tryin to put the link up but it won't get put on, just wait a week or 2 and you'll see

Its too embarrassing to read to even click the unbelievable button.

Its true but on loan

06 Jul 2013 16:38:06
Ed just to confirm to some simple people that an assist is a chance created that a teamate has scored from! Like when sess passed the ball to vaughan and he scored at the scums ground! He didn't only create 3 chances all season! My point is he could of created 100 chances but because we only scored from 3 of them he only had 3 assists! That is not his fault that the chances aren't being converted! Some people need to understand the game better before posting rubbish on here!

Dave the mackem {Ed024's Note - Your definition is correct - as far as I can find stats aren't kept for chances created because how would you define a chance - a shot or the opportunity to shoot - that would be a bit subjective.}

He created 40 clear cut chances {Ed024's Note - Where does you stat come from ?}

100 chances, ha, what team have you been watching. If you had said MON's tactics had restricted him from creating chances I would have agreed; but to say that Sess might have created 100 chances, now that is rubbish

See the jellied eel brigade are trolling our pages again, Personally, I love the banter but it is so one sided lately, it is just a joke the skunks having a go at us, well done to the 3 stoogies at Sid James, and not forgetting Alex Ferguson for making the whole lot of them spew all at the same time as well as inducing the biggest bout of diarrhoea {Ed024's Note - The quicker Newcastle start signing some players the better - the banter is just too one sided at the moment.}

The fact is when the players hear that Kinear is the director of football they back off!. talk about torpedoing your own ship!

Ed, you asked where I got the stat from Sessegnon creating 40 chances this season, I answer it and you didn't put it on, why? {Ed024's Note - You'l have to post again - i didn't get it}

I think its if he passes to someone then they directly shoot at goal on or off target ed. Its a bit like the what's classed as a shot on or off target topic if you know what I mean? And can that tool please shut up and learn to read because I didn't say he did create 100 chances I saod he could of as an example! Are some people really that thick or they acting stupid? He probably only watches the matches in a pub on the dodgey channels! Just pipe down mate because your boring me now by not reading things properly that's if u can read at all!

Cheers ed

Dave the mackem

06 Jul 2013 21:55:57
http://www.squawka.com/players/stephane-sessegnon

That is the website I got the 40 chances from {Ed024's Note - Yep the 40 chances include the 3 goal assists but the data is good, Sessignon with similar numbers to Larsson although Larsson did play 3 games more.}

06 Jul 2013 13:46:24
keep reading on here about players we need to get rid of because they played sh**e last season are they the same players that most people thought would get us in the top 10 easily and some mentioning its the best squad we have put together in their lifetime of following the club I thought so myself. its not the same excuse but under mon he totally took away any confidence and self belief some of these players had in themselves playing some of the worst tactics I have ever seen in my 40 years of watching sunderland. if pdc does let players like Vaughan Larsson gardener bardsley cuellaar brown mclean Cattermole sessegnon graham (think I have most of the players mentioned on here) go then we want to hope that the players brought in to replace them can hack it in the premiership or we will be in for a long hard season.

Agree with much

Most of these lads are quality players, tactics and positioning often made them look like mugs vaughan apart and solely due to age and length of contract i'm more than happy to retain everyone.

The players you mentioned only just got us over the line, if MON was in charge of the same players for the last 8 games where do you think we would have finished? & which players do you think we would have been talking about singing?. I will tell you we would have been in the bottom 3 and james Perch & Dan Gosling would be 2 players we would be looking at.

Read the post properly. what i'm saying is that under mon these players lost their confidence these are the same players who the season before people like you and myself and a lot more on here thought would take us forward and definitely into the top 10. yet under mon tactics they under achieved massively. now if we sell these players on and rely on all the new young signings we are making I can guarantee we will struggle, although times are exciting at the moment we still need players with premiership experience. if you don't think so then mate i'm sorry but you don't know a great deal about the challenges of the epl you don't get the time on the ball like these lads have been used to in whatever league they come from. {Ed024's Note - I think the number of players leaving has been over estimated - already gone - Kilgallon, Bramble, Migs, Elmo Mangane (returned) have gone. So 5 out, with Bardsley the only player looking as a definate to also go. So far we have 6 in the squad was a bit thin so don't expect an exodus.}

Im not expecting an exodus ed in fact i'm the opposite and like I also stated I've never been as excited about the club as I am at the moment but the worry is if we do have an exodus we will be short on players with premiership experience

06 Jul 2013 12:01:06
Well looks like Jozy Altidore will be joining soon. Fletcher and Altidore up front will be deadly. But as we all know we need somebody creative to sit behind them. Wouldn't mind if Sess leaves to be honest, had a mediocre season and only had about 3 or 4 assists so maybe PDC needs to look at some more foreign players that can really pass the ball around and create space and chances. I suggest Paulo Tavares (portugal). Very creative player and has said he'd love to play in England one day. Who else could be a good signing as a creative player?

Lazio's Candrevra, great season for Lazio and Italy
Absolute beast of a player, 10m?

Candreva would be an awsome signing i'd be happy to see sessegnon go if we got him to replace him

C'mon PDC, let's get Candrevra

We won't pay Peruzzi's wages what makes you think we will pay candrevra's

Err, because Candreva is worth it

Top class player

06 Jul 2013 10:12:07
ed any truth that Danny Graham is in talks with boro? {Ed024's Note - I've not heard that, I think I'm in a minority but I'd keep Graham, his work rate and commitment was fanstastic, just think he needs a goal to get going}

Agree with that we need lots of back up strikers after having so few last season!. I think hell do well coming off the bench and i'd keep JI too!

Your right ed. your in a minority.

Just proves my point you know nothing about safc {Ed024's Note - Is my opinion worth less than yours my angry friend ?}

Agree with ed. See how he goes until January and then sell if there's no improvement

Would play graham as my main striker and use fletcher or altidore alongside him grahams link up play is excellent holds the ball and helps the midfield get forward something fletcher struggles to do

Graham will prove himself he was a scapegoat last season

I can see what PDC is doing creating a squad of younger players and senior ones to work on a rotation basis! we can't have the sitaution where we were fighting for relegation with a threadbare squad!. the better teams have bigger squads!

Yes graham had great workrate pay me 20k a week and so would i. 3 shots on target in over 10 games is a disgrace for any proffessional striker no matter what tactics are used. I would gladly take a loss to get rid

Rather keep ji

We all know that we like to see centre forwards score goals and though graham never scored last season his link up play with sessagnon Johnson Larson and the other lads was well worth paying the money something that fletcher couldn't do although his goals kept us up fletcher all round play is poor he needs to realise that he needs to link up better. when graham was playing his holding of the ball gave the lads from midfield the chances to get forward well illustrated in the 3-0 win at sid james. if altidore does sign I would prefer him to play along side someone who can link up well with him and to me that is danny graham. {Ed024's Note - A bit controversial - Altidore and Graham with Fletcher on the bench. If Fletcher isn't fit for the warm up games this could be the partnership v Fulham}

06 Jul 2013 02:01:31
Ed what do you think about the wages situation with Peruzzi and possibly now Mendy do you think we are doing enough to push these deals over the line. as at this moment apart from Bardsley who is probably leaving we have no recognised full backs!. do you think we should pay the going rate? {Ed024's Note - I don't think any fans have a problem paying the going rate but if either want silly wages I would walk away - Mendy is 18 and Peruzzi 21 and while both are great prospects both have much to prove. That said it could be any number of factors slowing the negotiations.}

We haven't had a normal, permanent left back for years, hope we start this summer.

06 Jul 2013 02:11:30
Weve signed Altidore for £6 million and he's agreed personal terms! that's a good bit of buisness. now we need a skillful third striker to compliment Fletch and the USA striker. i'd still keep JI but wickam and Grahams days must now be numbered!

Hernandez?

Probs be Vydra

Altidor, another great signing for us great price to, if the 6mill price tag is true considering Bony was playing in the same league is the same age scored about the same amount of goals and is nearly double the price, I don't know about everybody else but this is the most excited I think I've ever been about a new season and I think that's down to not just the new manager but the the new scouting set up who for the first time ever get out there and scout.

Well the good thing is we are trying to get good skillfull players!