18 Jul 2015 17:30:22
well i'm hoping we are not done in the transfer market as people are mentioning some decent names on sunderland sites but i'm concerned about a lot of the deadwood we need to clear off our books some players who are not good enough bridcutt buckley fletcher wickham johnson manone gomez mavrias brown o'shea roberge graham in my opinion others on here will have their own but all are a drain on the finances of the club which restricts us on the type of players we can sign if we could get 4 or 5 of these off the books as some are on that high wages not many clubs can afford to take them if we can i'm sure we would be able to bring a few more decent players in to the club dick says he is having a meeting with short tomorrow to see what we have left to spend and this doesn't sound good as i'm sure most fans will be worried about this I can see us making one more signing if we can't get rid of any of these and maybe take advantage of the loan system before the transfer window closes. also if we get stuck with alvarez we might have done our transfer business.
18 Jul 2015 22:05:46
Gary you are spot on We are top heavy with players who if we retain for another season will relegate us.Most of these players have been at our club for a few seasons and have got into the habit of losing nearly every game as long as they get megabucks for nowt.Unless Dick can sort them out, and get them out of our club,we will be relegated this season.
19 Jul 2015 12:11:40
Would love to see all 12 of them moved out. We will struggle to stay in prem with them in squad. Championship players at best.
19 Jul 2015 12:43:28
How can you say Johnson is championship at best. He is arguably one of the most gifted players we have in our squad. Would be a huge loss if his legal situation went negative. Gomez is going to be cover along with fletcher. Whickham is good just needs to toughen up and brown and oshea won't be moved considering brown has just been given a new contract and oshea was ever present last season. If yu honestly believe we could get rid of 12 players and cope we would be in trouble.
19 Jul 2015 14:46:15
We could always buy better replacements. That is the way to improve. FTM might have got conditioned into accepting mediocre or even woefull. I am personally sick of under achievers who we pay fortunes to. Bring back jeff whitley. Ay!
19 Jul 2015 18:29:40
How naive. You can not replace an entire squad and expect to survive. PDC tried that and look where it got him!
Yes we need to clear out some poor players in high wages but be realistic , how many top quality players can we attract to a relegation battling club in an area so far away from London!
19 Jul 2015 19:22:29
Its not an entire squad. Its 12 players who are not good enough. It didn't work with them so we won't miss them. Show them the door let dick get 3 - 4 quality replacements and supplement the squad with our youngsters. Other clubs do this and prosper. We are a big club and deserve a better team. At least dick realises that most of that lot need to go. let's see how many of the dozen are still there at the end of the transfer window.
19 Jul 2015 19:26:51
Also. PDC didn't bring quality in to replace what players left. Di-fanti brought another load of rubbish to replace the rubbish.
19 Jul 2015 20:24:15
That's my point. Players we sign have to improve on what we have. How many out there will sign for us!
And 12 leaving and using all young to replace is not feasible . I do however advocate Watmore and a couple others being brought into the first team setup!
19 Jul 2015 21:36:58
We are tied by the dross that's still on wage bill!. surely it would be cheaper to pay some of them off??
20 Jul 2015 06:33:01
We create our own problems. Kaboul could work out to be a good signing, hopefully. But why give a player who is coming up to 30 a 4 year contract. He will be on a high wage and has a poor history with injuries. Like so many before him that we can't get off our books because of the good contracts we hand out to average players. It seems like there is no long term plan. A quick fix then leave the mess for the next coach to deal with. On a brighter note, I am sure lens will be great.
20 Jul 2015 11:31:46
it isn't mediocrity. Johnson is one of the best we have got. selling 12 and getting in 3-4? with an already thin squad to do that is suicide. And putting in youngsters who in all respect aren't proven at this level would also be a mistake. I agree with watmore and maybe honeyman and agnew but who else? shipping out the dead wood will take more than one summer.
20 Jul 2015 14:27:25
3 seasons of relegation battles. Caused by a total lack of quality. Haway FTM. let's be honest here. We are over loaded with dead wood the squad is too big anyway. If we keep this lot then relegation battle looms. Ok, when johno is on his game then yes he gives us something else. He just goes missing to often for me. The other 11 are surplus to safc needs. The 3 youngsters you mentioned 3-4 new signings and 2 domestic loans. Then me and you marra will be looking with pride at our club in the top 10!!!
20 Jul 2015 16:27:28
don't get me wrong bobby k, I don't really like players such as brown oshea and whickham (the rest can go) but brown and whickham have new contracts so unfortunately won't and oshea can still do a decent job although I would start coates and kaboul if he stays fit. whickham could come good.I think. I agree the majority should go but it will take time purely because people do not want them so unless release them and pay them off then they will stay. we still need a striker!!
20 Jul 2015 18:55:00
FTM,I am not trying to nit-pick but just when do you think Wickham will come good.We signed him in 2011 for 8M and we are still waiting for any sign of life.As for Johnson we all know he has ability but he is lazy and won't put any effort in,we have too many players who are just going through the motions and getting managers the sack.I am sure you know who they are,and they need to go,we may not be as lucky avoiding relegation again ths season.
20 Jul 2015 20:06:26
FTM I have to agree with chris-s about wickham. He shows the odd flash of potential but when are we gona see it week in week out. Your right FTM about off loading the rest. Only championship teams would want them but their wages are the obsticle. I think we will just have to take a big loss on the majority just to get them off the books. Brian clough won 2 european cups with a team of players some of whom were deemed finished by their previous clubs. But they worked their socks off. Some of our players shouldn't even look in a mirror when it comes to work rate.
20 Jul 2015 21:26:03
Agree FTM dunno why people are slagging off Johnson as on his day he's a match winner and like all gifted wingers they are not in the game for 90 mins!
20 Jul 2015 21:29:31
The problem for me is that the deadwood is draining the finiances and perhaps its better to pay some of them off? one thing I like about Kaboul is that he's a motivator like Catts and we need that sort of player when the game isn't going our way!
21 Jul 2015 10:08:46
I would give whickham playing time this season and see how he turns out. I don't no why but I just want him to come good so much. Young, English player who has talent just needs to pull his finger out.
21 Jul 2015 11:31:53
as long as Dick plays him up front instead of the wing?. still don't like the 4-3-3 system for me it should always be 4-4-2 more positive!
21 Jul 2015 17:05:30
dick is keen on a 4-3-3 which is worrying to me is defoe is the main striker because he hasn't got the presence to be a lone striker. I quiet like a 4-1-3-2 with Larsson lens and giach maybe behind defoe and another striker or lens with defoe and giach Larsson and that creative midfielder with cats infront of defence? atleast defoe would have a partner? thoughts!?